Re: [TANGO-L] Close Embrace All the Time People

[El Mundo del Tango <mail@ELMUNDODELTANGO.COM>]

Correct me if I am wrong . From reading your first paragraph I conclude that
for you "close" and  "open"(we should call it "distant", I think) are two
"worlds" or "styles" apart. Seems that for you Salon is "open" and "another
style" is "close". I disagree 1000%.
Authentic social Argentine Salon Tango is danced in both embraces,
constantly transitioning from one to the other, depending on vocabulary,
floor conditions and partner.
Furthermore, the difference between Salon and the so called
"milonguero"(Apilado) is not the distance but rather the angle of the
embrace, the shoulder of the leader over which the follower is looking  and
the reliance on one's own axes, as opposed to leaning on each other.
We can dance very much in close embrace and it is still Salon and we need
not learn another "style".
Teaching otherwise leads to confussion, irritation , unnecessary arguements
and quiting, thereby Tango communities shrinking. Not a good idea.

Gabriel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lois Donnay" <donnay@DONNAY.NET>
To: <TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] Close Embrace All the Time People


I had a similar experience with a man who only dances salon. He told me he
had never danced close before and doesn't with anyone else. We started out
dancing salon, but drifted into close embrace. Now when he and I dance, we
dance close. It's great.

When I'm in Bs.As, I find some men start out in close, but go into open with
me once they find out I'm a good follower. I think it's like taking the
sports car out onto the open road to see how much you can get out of it.

Lois
Minneapolis

> > I first noticed this last year when a gentleman who
> > greatly preferred salon to milonguero asked me to
> > dance at a milonga.  Rather than dance salon,
> however,
> > he danced milonguero style since he knew that was my
> preferred style.
> > I thought it was so sweet of him, especially in the 10 years that I
> > have known him, I never even knew that he studied any milonguero (he
> > lives in another city).
> >
> > Although I really appreciated his efforts, I
> couldn't
> > help but feel that he wasn't free to be who he was,
> to
> > share his own feelings in the dance.  Because of
> that
> > I felt a little trapped myself.  We still had an
> > enjoyable dance, but I would have liked to have
> given
> > him a "wow" dance, not just a "nice" dance.
> >
> > Since then, I have tried harder to help my partner
> > dance as true to himself/herself as much as
> possible.
> > My joy from tango comes from learning about my
> partner
> > and sharing an honest conversation.  Which means
> that
> > if a persons only way of conversing with me is
> > open-embrace, then we dance open.  If his/her only
> way
> > is in close, then we dance close.  And who knows, I
> > just might learn something.
> >
> > The converse of that is that if I am not able to
> give
> > my partner a meaningful dance, then it is better
> that
> > I dont dance with them.  That is simply because I
> do
> > not want to give them a bad dance and I never want
> to
> > resent dancing with them.
> >
> > A few thoughts,
> > Trini de Pittsburgh
> >
> >
> > PATangoS - Pittsburgh Argentine Tango Society
> > Our Mission: To make Argentine Tango Pittsburgh's
> most popular social dance.
> > http://www.pitt.edu/~mcph/PATangoWeb.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >
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