Re: [TANGO-L] Walking the tango - About Tango Precision being an Oxymoron

[Iron Logic <railogic @yahoo.com>]

The suffering of the world caused by extremists, how could tango be an exception ;).

On one side you have technically oriented, technique for the sake of technique category. On the other extreme are old school who think, you learn tango for tens of years, that social dancing = bad posture, sloppy footwork, that you have to be old, fat, ugly and have a pot belly etc etcyou have be Argentine ofcourse.

Or may be there is a meeting point somewhere between?.

By the way the world is moving, if you have to be as old as those molingueros to be good, it might bit too late for lot of people. They better be doing something else or they may invent something else that works for them and how can you blame them?.

Either teach them how to dance real tango or dont say anything;).

Lot people do think that they can learn tango, that you have something, some talent and for what you lack you go to teachers. Many people earn their living as a result. What is wrong with that?




IL

Lucia <curvasreales  @YAHOO.COM.AR> wrote:Oxymoron: a combination of contradictory terms
The following argument is intended for Social Tango
only.

--- astrid escribis:

> > >From: Lucia
> > >precision is
> > >associated with coldness, premeditation and
> analysis.
> >
> > Coldness? Premeditation? Analysis? How about
> natural physical prowess or
> > athletic ability? How about skill from practice?
>
> Well, said, Manuel. I agree completely.

Since some have publicly trumpeted their conviction
that Social Tango is a dance of precision, a
correction is needed lest their pernicious views
corrupt the innocent.

If we glance at the definition of "precision" in an
English dictionary:


1. Used or intended for accurate or exact measurement


2. Made so as to vary minimally from a set standard.

I would add, a quality that can be reproduced exactly
and repeatedly with a minimum of variance.

If there's an English linguist reading, I would
appreciate a correction. For I never heard about a
"precise walk". But a limping walk, sensuous walk,
hobbling walk, fast. slow, timid, confident, macho
walk, etc. One could also mull over the terms
"precision dancer, (if it exists)" and "skilled
dancer". I know about "precisin bombing" though ;->

Before you start suspecting that maybe "precision" is
a term ill-suited to Social Tango, let's see if there
are dances that the term applies accurately to.

Take the classical ballet: the dancers, in pas de deux
for example, are judged on synchronicity, paralleism
of limbs, equal angles, height of movement,
repeatebility.

This is called Precision!

And to be able to dance like a Bolshoi or a Royal
Ballet dancer, you have to a personal application,
whic yes, includes a mix of will, premeditation,
coldness and analyisis, along with other
characteristics.

It needs also grace and talent, but sorry to say, some
correspondents to this list, including Astrid who
enjoys displaying her ignorance, seem to think that
natural talent is replaceable by hard work.

To continue the argument, is ballet, or quadrille,
true dances of precision, comparable to Social Tango?
Then, does anyone still think that Social Tango can be
defined as a dance of precision? That there are
elements in Social Tango that can be measured
according to the definition of "precision", time and
again, and for every couple?

Lucia ;->

Huh, to think what befell to a simple dancing walk to
the tune of a bandoneon!...



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