Re: [TANGO-L] TANGO LYRICS

[Rubén Carlos Terbalca <rubenmilonga @SINECTIS.COM.AR>]

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Tenes razon Barbara,
Ademas es imposible obtener un doctorado en lunfardo, ya que por definici=
on,
"la regla es cambiar el vocablo cuando es conocido".
 En distintos periodos el mismo significado adquiere diferentes vocablos
lunfardos para expresarse.
Inclusive la mayoria de los argentinos que aprendieron a bailar desde los
a=F1os =B480 no entienden gran parte del lunfardo en las letras--- !!!si =
hasta
los cantantes argentinos cambian las palabras porque no las conocen!!!.-
Muchos argentinos y cantantes arg.creen que "convento" donde el bandoneon
fue abandonado (Letra de un famoso tango dedicado al bandoneon) es una
residencia para monjes de la iglesia catolica---- y no tiene nada que ver
con "residencia de monjes".El significado es totalmente otro. Ese termino=
 es
" contraccion de un termino  lunfardo", cuyo sentido podran encontrar los
estudiosos-
Un abrazo
Ademas las "autoridades" en lunfardo normalmente no lo han hablado en la
infancia ni en la calle.
Publican investigaciones academicas de valor academico.......pero nadie l=
e
pregunt=F3 a Virulazo, ni a Pepito Avellaneda....

----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara Garvey" <barbara  @TANGOBAR-PRODUCTIONS.COM>
To: <TANGO-L  @MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 10:43 PM
Subject: [TANGO-L] TANGO LYRICS


In the discussion about tango lyrics and the desireablity of understandin=
g
Spanish, it's important to know that MANY tango lyrics are full of Lunfar=
do,
a dialect that most hispanohablantes don't understand any more than most
English speakers could converse in Cockney. So if anyone is trying to
decipher lyrics a good  Lunfardo dictionary is a must. Several are better=
. I
have 6.

Al and I know a Mexican-American woman whose mother listened to tango on =
the
radio. The little girl and her friends were frustrated because they could=
n't
understand so many of the words. When she grew up she visited Buenos Aire=
s
to study Lunfardo, becoming an expert. In fact she tried to find a
university where she could obtain a doctorate in Lunfardo, but wasn't
successful.

As for complaints about the non-p.c. content of tango lyrics, the culture=
 of
tango is certainly not all moonlight and roses. Tango is not just a dance=
,
but relates to literature, the plastic arts, politics, psychological  &
economic frustrations, class distinctions, soccer and horse-racing, etc e=
tc.
Lots of great tangos about horse-racing!  I also feel that an interest in
the culture of tango makes it much more interesting to dance and listen t=
o,
and of course to talk about. There are those in the tango world who just
like to dance, and many others, especially on this List, who like to go
deeper, even to the point of fiery emotional outbursts:-)

Barbara in Vallarta