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Hi List.  Here's an excellent pointer from one of those amazing DJs:
"It's really a bad time to interact with a DJ just before a set is about to
end, or during a cortina.  They are incredibly busy then.  The ideal time to
put yourself in position (great phrase) to be asked is right after the
cortina ends."

And for milonga organizers -- a really great dancer mentioned that at their
milongas they have a sort of "social space" -- a place in view of the dance
floor, but set apart for snacks, sitting, etc.  So the signal that it's okay
to socialize is a function of the space.    Cool.  Thanks again, Lynne

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Topics of the day:

  1. Virus Warning of a tango site
  2. bandoneon (2)
  3. White Flags (Denver)

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Date:    Mon, 26 May 2003 15:56:29 +0300
From:    "Aydogan (El Encuentro)" <aydogan @TANGOENCUENTRO.COM>
Subject: Virus Warning of a tango site

Dear List,

If you get a message with "Very funny Tango web site" subject, do not
open it. I was warned by my ISP, that it contained virus, and the
attachment was deleted.

Regards,
Aydogan
www.tangoenceuntro.com <http://www.tangoenceuntro.com/>

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Date:    Thu, 22 May 2003 01:52:41 -0300
From:    Janis Kenyon <jantango @FEEDBACK.NET.AR>
Subject: bandoneon

20 May 2003, Rick from Portland wrote:

"The buttons didn't have any markings, numbers, notes on them. I nosed
around the net & found various stabs at standardizing the layout, etc. I
played alto & baritone sax in Franklin High's band in the mid 70s, & the
layout, keying, scales were quite straightforward. If anyone has a simple
explanation of how they play this beautiful instrument, I'd love to hear
it.
Looks like there is a ton of keys, a lever of somekind & many combinations
of keystrokes?"



Isn't it interesting how a German church instrument made its way to Buenos
Aires and then became an essential part of tango orchestras?

The tango and the bandoneon have a lot in common--neither one is
straightforward nor simple.

Pichi de Buenos Aires

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Date:    Mon, 26 May 2003 20:37:36 +0200
From:    =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Christian_L=FCthen?= <christian.luethen @GMX.NET>
Subject: Re: bandoneon

On 22 May 2003 at 1:52, Janis Kenyon wrote:

>
> Isn't it interesting how a German church instrument made its way to
> Buenos Aires and then became an essential part of tango orchestras?
>
> The tango and the bandoneon have a lot in common--neither one is
> straightforward nor simple.

or, as astor piazzolla said it at NYC central park concert:
'originally a church istrument from germany,
it made it's way to the hure-houses of buenos aires,
and now here in central park'.

[well, more or less, I do not remember the words exactly.]

but still: they say that it *is* actually learnable. :-))
christian

christian @eTanguero.net
http://www.eTanguero.net/

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Date:    Tue, 27 May 2003 00:09:41 -0600
From:    Lynne Butler <lynneoaks @HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: White Flags (Denver)

Wonderful job Tom, et. al!!!!
My thanks to the entire Denver community and all those DJs and performers
who made it so vibrant and magical.  I had an amazing time.  Julio and
Corina, heart-stopping.  Tango Mujer, aaahhhhhh!.

There is one kind of funky thing, though, that my friend and I talked about
on our way home and I d love to hear how others on the list feel about it.
Your suggestions, etc.
It s this question:  Is it possible to make a non-threatening,
non-dance-asking, friendly gesture toward a sort-of stranger of the
opposite
sex at a milonga?  Just a friendly "hello" -- without fearing you ll be
perceived as a heat-seeking missle to be avoided at all costs using
elaborate eye-manipulations or a fast break for the water?
I imagine the dilemma (if there is one) stems a little from our borrowed Bs
As tradition of using eye contact to secure dances (which I know has been
discussed on this list before). And yeah, it works great for asking and
avoiding dances -- but does anyone else feel that it has a twilight zone
result too?   There were times I kind of wished I had a little white flag
so
I could walk up to someone, even a more advanced dancer than myself, waving
it, and feel free to say, for example,  I ve read your comments on Tango-L
and you make a lot of sense   or  Thanks for being a great DJ, your
playlist
is wonderful  or  "We met a year ago in Chile," or   I think you know my
dear friend Jane in Portland, how s she doing, and would you give her a hug
for me?"
A few of my awkward attempts at such brief conversations like this weekend
resulted in really pleasant exchanges.  (It always seemed okay to express
appreciation to theTango Mujer women, for example, but maybe that was okay
because there was no fear I was asking for a dance) --   But very often,
when it was a man I didn't know,  it felt uncomfortable, if not chilly,  --
like I d somehow forgotten to read the rules for meeting the Queen.  I m
kidding on that --though not entirely.
Of course, I know milongas are for dancing, not chatting  and perhaps any
approach from someone you don't know is suspicious -- because this approach
is also often how the dance transaction is made.   But is there a way to
make these big weekends, which bring together strangers, who are not really
strangers, (because of things like Tango-L where we get "familiar" with
each
other even if we've never met)-- Is there a way to make them more natural
social situations.  Classes seem more relaxed,  and parties help, but even
there attempts at casual converation seems to be met with some wariness.
Is
it utterly impossible at milongas themselves?  Maybe so.  (By the way, I
don t want to suggest this is a problem limited to women approaching men, I
imagine many men may experience this as well).
And I want to re-emphasize that the weekend was wonderful and everyone
should come to Denver if you can!   I'd just love to know what others think
on this topic.

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