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Topics of the day:

  1. boleos
  2. EU-W: no milonga in "de Kroon"in Amsterdam dec 25th en jan 1st
  3. Four days and three nights in the Far West





Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:29:06 +0200
From:    Natarajan Balasundara <rajan  @EMC.COM>
Subject: Re: boleos

Sandy Smith wrote(a while ago):

>  From different teachers I have experienced a couple of different perspectives:
> 1. At CITA, in Mauricio's class on boleos he stressed three things. 1. That
> boleos require momentum, 2. that they are interrupted movements, & 3. that
> because of 1 & 2, the woman is not in her own balance and so the man should
> provide this. Basically the man leads, controls, and supports the woman,
> and her role is to be relaxed & responsive.

Now that everyone has already said that the follower should never put
any
weight on the leader as a rule, I suppose there could be some exceptions
as well.

Only support, I, as a leader, might be willing to provide for a boleo is
by providing upward(vertical) lift (and I do *not* mean lifting the
tanguera off the floor--it would be as imperceptble as possible and
can be better done in closeembrace) on a rough dance floor such as
dancing outside. This makes it easier for the follower to swing the
leg smoothly(since she will carry less weight and hence less friction)--
much like a door swinging back smoothly on a well oiled hinge after
someone opens it with a bang.

And it is better for her ankles too. In any case, if the leader is
leading boleos on such a floor, he might as well pitch in with his
support. This is not as much as the follower putting the weight on
the leader but the leader voluntarily providing the support.

rajan.





Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:57:37 +0200
From:    Marco van Zanden <argtango  @EURONET.NL>
Subject: EU-W: no milonga in "de Kroon"in Amsterdam dec 25th en jan 1st

Early warning,

This year, there will be NO milonga in Royal Cafe de Kroon, at rembrandtplein
in Amsterdam, the Netherlands on december 25th, and neither on januari 1st
2001.

Before and after these dates the milonga will be held each monday from 9pm
untill 1am.
there is no entrancefee but to cover the little costs we have we ask to put a
guilder (usd 0,40) in the piggybank at the table of de DJ.

Hope to see you sometime in Amsterdam.

Marco van Zanden
Lunadetango  @vanzanden.nl
+31-(0)20-6838117





Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:46:28 -0700
From:    Carlos Lima <amilsolrac  @YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Four days and three nights in the Far West

Thanks to Tom Stermitz, to Tango Colorado, to Chris Perkins and Cammie
Strange personally, to the Mercury Cafe management (whom I did not meet), and
all the others whom I do not know about. I will be eternally in debt to Tom
Stermitz for shaking me out of my complacency. (OK, now we can get back to
disagreeing.) How did I love it? Can't count the ways, but here are some.

An expectation that this was going to be a milonguero fest. OK, a "close
embrace" fest will also do, for now. So people mostly did just that, without
all the (in NY) customary hesitations. A critical mass of people, men and
women, who could do it or, as in my case, a reasonable fac simile.

A great club floor in an "all character" establishment for two of the FOUR
milongas, with bar and food service. (I guess in Denver TRIPLE milonga week
end means three announced and one surprise bonus milonga over THREE days).
The wonderful setting for the outdoor milonga at Cheesman Park: lawns, trees
and the elegant covered colonnade under the late afternoon sun and the stars.
And especially the party at Chris Perkins's large apartment, my first
experience with "near Buenos Aires conditions": just enough space to move a
little, baile en una baldosa (one tile tango), yet mostly so smooth and
civilized that it becomes a sweet, wonderful, experience. (We need this badly
in NY.) Great weather, starry nights (well, just a few clouds).

The alchemy from throwing together in one pot dancers from a number of tango
communities around the country, all encultured in milonguero, stirring and
bringing to a boil. There were people from Atlanta, Salt Lake City, Los
Angeles and elsewhere in California, Miami and elsewhere in Florida, Austin
and elsewhere in Texas, Minneapolis, etc, etc, and, of course, lots of locals
from Denver, Boulder, and nearby towns. My humble solitary presence may have
allowed the New York area to aspire to parity with Mount Vernon, Missouri,
and with the state of Idaho. What a delightful assemblage of tango lovers!

Dance quality heavily skewed to HIGH. Good to great music selection. Smooth
organization. A leisurely pace of everything. Great hospitality all around:
at the events, and everywhere else for those who, like me, were lodged by
local tangueros. Elaine, and Robert-o Skinner, thank you from my heart.

Useful and entertaining classes. If nothing else these leisurely events
(three teacher couples over 4 or 5 hours on Saturday, ditto Sunday),
conducted on the basis of strict couple rotation, helped participants from
all over get acquainted with each other, as people and as dancers. I believe
they energized the Saturday and Sunday milongas mightily.

(Speaking of strict rotation, the mathematics of it are rather involved, so
there is not a lot of it here, as quite a number of tango teachers in NY
struggle with the concept. "OK, men move down to the next partner". "OK, now
women move down to the next partner". "Why is everyone grumbling? Anything
wrong?" After a few combinations like this teacher finds the whole exercise
beneath his Terpsichorean dignity. "OK, everybody just grab (!) a partner".
New York is a very sophisticated town, you know.)

I predict that Tom Stermitz's Denver fest will be imitated often and soon.

Golly! This is a review without criticism. From dear gentle me. (Well, today
I took it all out on NY.) See, this is what you get after all efforts to root
out evil. You study the maps so you do not end up stranded in the middle of
nowhere or something. Then you have a dream experience. Even *I* do not then
go off to a corner to mope and brood about how much better it would have been
if only there had been no clouds at all in the night sky.


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