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There are 6 messages totalling 281 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Natalia Games & Gabriel Angio in Turkey
2. Natalia Games - Gabriel Angio Workshops
3. Visas &Taxes for Argentines working in the USA (2)
4. email address change
5. Tango lists canceled
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:50:14 +0300
From: Aydogan Arkis <aydoganarkis @SUPERONLINE.COM>
Subject: Natalia Games & Gabriel Angio in Turkey
Dear List,
Natalia Games & Gabriel Angio will be in Turkey for a series of workshops
between 22-26.November. If you pass by then, you are very welcome to join
us.
Please contact me for details.
Regards,
Aydogan.
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:51:52 +0300
From: Aydogan Arkis <aydoganarkis @SUPERONLINE.COM>
Subject: Natalia Games - Gabriel Angio Workshops
Dear list,
Upon the responsive detail request, I would like to submit the
nearly-complete Agenda. The workshops will be held in Istanbul, and the
capital of Turkey, Ankara.
Ankara workshops will be between 22-23.Nov. The deatils will be clear, soon.
Please let me know if you are particularly interested in them.
Istanbul workshop details are as follows;
24.Nov. Venue : Armada Otel
Friday Natalia Games - Gabriel Angio Show
Milonga
25.Nov. Venue : Istanbul Technical University, Faculty of Business
Administration, Dance
floor, Akaretler/Istanbul
1. Group Tango (Intermediate) 13:00 - 14:30
2. Group Tango (Advanced) 14:45 - 16:15
Tango-Waltz 16:30 - 17:30
Techniques for Men/Women 17:30 - 18:30
26.Nov. Venue : The same as above.
1. Group Tango (Intermediate) 13:00 - 14:30
2. Group Tango (Advanced) 14:45 - 16:15
Milonga 16:30 - 17:30
Techniques for Men/Women 17:30 - 18:30
Again, you are very welcome to make your reservations through me.
Thanks,
Aydogan - BailaTango Turkey
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:29:57 -0300
From: Janis Kenyon <jantango @FEEDBACK.NET.AR>
Subject: Visas &Taxes for Argentines working in the USA
The following is for those who organize workshops in the United States for
teachers coming from Buenos Aires.
Two months before the First International Argentine Tango Congress at
Northwestern University in June 1995, I became aware of the fact that U.S.
Immigration requires that nonimmigrant aliens, who travel to the US for the
purpose of work, apply for a work permit and visa. Therefore, I took a
crash course at the library in immigration law as it pertained to bringing
artists to work in the U.S. I then applied for work permits and P-3 visas
for Juan Carlos Copes, Maria Nieves, Pepito Avellaneda, Suzuki De Souza,
Miguel Angel Zotto and Milena Plebs, which were issued by the US Consulate
in Buenos Aires in time for them to travel to Chicago. Without the visas,
they would have been entering the country illegally.
Osvaldo Zotto was not allowed to enter the U.S. in June 1997 to work at the
Columbus Tangofest, because he did not have a visa for that week in his
passport. He was put on a plane to Buenos Aires. Osvaldo was unable to
teach at the Tangofest because the organizer failed to petition Immigration
& Naturalization Service for the necessary P-3 visa which Osvaldo needed in
order to work in the U.S. Immigration officials saw numerous work visas in
his passport and concluded that he was coming to work in the U.S. Needless
to say, after that incident, Osvaldo always obtains work visa when he
travels to the U.S.
The visa process takes time. I recommend you begin at least three months
before the date of entry into the United States. You can file with the U.S.
Department of Justice, Immigration and Naturalization Service no more than
four months before employment, and should file at least 45 days before entry
in order to complete the process. You can get information about the process
at the INS website and can order forms at
www.ins.usdoj.gov/exec/forms/formsbymail.asp Here is a brief explanation of
what is involved.
1. Obtain the curriculum vitae of the artist and make an English
translation for INS. Obtain supporting materials from the artist which
justify "cultural uniqueness" and "international acclaim."
2. Prepare a contract between US agent/employer and artist setting forth
the terms
of the employment and itinerary for teaching in the US.
3. Prepare Form I-129 Petition for Nonimmigrant worker and the P Supplement
to file with your regional INS office.
4. Obtain a consultation from the American Guild of Musical Artists. The
petition will not be considered without a consultation from a labor
organization.
5. File the petition in duplicate originals with all documentation to the
regional office of INS with a check for the filing fee.
6. Upon receipt of the approval notice, notify the artist to go to the US
Consulate (where you requested approval be sent) with photos, passport, and
fee for visa.
Carina Losano and Pablo Fontana have been working in the United States for
the past year with P-3 visas which I helped them obtain. Nito and Elba
Garcia obtained visas through their agent in NY.
In May 1995, I called the Internal Revenue Service about tax obligations for
the artists teaching at the Congress at Northwestern, and I was told that
"federal income tax does apply to compensation under P-3 visas. Social
Security and medicare taxes do not apply." Therefore, once an artist
receives compensation from employment over the amount of the personal
exemption for that year, the employer is required to withhold federal income
tax at the rate of 30%. The artist then files a tax return for nonresident
aliens at the US Embassy in Buenos Aires to report income and expenses. The
IRS agent recommended that an employer maintain an "accountable plan with
receipts for expenses which are then excludable."
Unemployment is high in Argentina. Making a living as a tango teacher is
difficult in Buenos Aires. Is it any wonder that so many want to travel and
teach in the United States? But do organizers have to take such risks, by
overlooking US immigration and tax laws, all for the sake of tango? Is it
worth jeopardizing future work in the United States by traveling without the
proper visa?
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:31:31 -0700
From: Rick Heath <cathoops @EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: email address change
hello!..my email address has changed to TangoDude @peoplepc.com. Rick. @-;-;-----
~~~Argentine Tango is My Passion!~~~
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:07:05 EDT
From: "Lisa E. Battan" <Battanle @AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Visas &Taxes for Argentines working in the USA
Hi All,
I am an avid tango dancer and an attorney practicing immigration law. I
represent a number of Argentine tango dancers and I file many P-3
applications during the course of a year.
I agree that dancers should have proper visas if they wish to work in the
United States. I know of several dancers turned around at the port of entry
because the dancer did not have a visa which allowed the dancer to work. If
INS denies the dancer admission, the INS places the dancer on a plane and
sends them back home. At that point it is too late for me, or anyone else, to
correct the problem. The dancer will miss the events to which he/she hoped
to travel. The INS may also exclude the dancer from future admission to the
U.S., or INS may deny future visa applications.
Organizers also have an interest in ensuring that dancers have proper visas
because organizers may face fines for illegally employing dancers who do not
possess proper documents.
I am certain that the person who provided Janis with the visa information was
well meaning. This person intended to protect organizers and dancers.
However, that said, some of the information is incorrect; It is also
incomplete. For example, the visa application may be filed six months prior
to the event, not four. Also, the law contains very specific requirements as
to what information must be included in the itinerary, who can act as a
sponsor, whether the relationship between the dancer and the U.S. organizer
is an employment relationship or an agency relationship, how the dancer
establishes nonimmigrant intent, etc.
Immigration is an interesting area of law. However, it is not easy. The
applicable laws are contained in many different places. Some are written
down in federal statutes, the Code of Federal Regulations, the INS
Instructional Manual, State Department Bulletins and INS agency memos. Some
of the practice you wouldn't know unless you did a lot of this type of work.
I can't be in the position of giving out legal advice to the entire list.
And, this is not a plug for my services. However, in the event that
organizers wish to file their own visa applications, they should at least
schedule a consultation with an attorney who specializes in immigration law.
Then, they can make an informed decision about whether and how they should
proceed. A consultation may avoid a lot of headaches and continue to protect
the dancer's future ability to teach in this country.
Best Regards,
Lisa Battan
Boulder, Colorado
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 02:27:57 EDT
From: Mirella Massetti <MMirella @AOL.COM>
Subject: Tango lists canceled
(Segue traduzione in italiano)
Just yesterday we learned that the company who owns Enrico's domain, cancele=
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"all lists" without informing its customers, including the Florida Tango Lis=
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and the Tango Italia List. We do not know when exactly this occurred, and I=
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am posting this message after many inquiries from both Italy and Florida.
The company informed Enrico that now he can re-start his lists, but he has t=
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re-enter all the information about the people wanting to receive messages=20
from each list. Unfortunately we do not have all the e-mail addresses of the=
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recipients of either list. I apologize for the problem, and would like to=20
ask those who would like to receive the postings to either the Florida Tango=
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List or the Tango Italia List to send an e-mail message either to me or to=20
Enrico at one of the following e-mail addresses:
e_mass @msn.com
mmirella @aol.com
specifying the list in which they would like to be included.
This is the only way Enrico will be able to restore the lists to their=20
original status.
Thank you for your cooperation and=E2=80=A6 hot tangos to everybody!
Mirella
Abbiamo saputo ieri che la ditta proprietaria del domain usato da Enrico per=
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ospitare le liste Tango Italia e Florida Tango ha cancellato tutte le liste=20
senza avvertire i propri clienti. Non sappiamo esattamente quando questo sia=
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successo. Invio questo messaggio a seguito di molte richieste che mi sono=20
pervenute sia dall'Italia che dalla Florida.
La ditta in questione ha informato Enrico che adesso pu=C3=B2 riaprire le li=
ste,=20
il che comporta l'inserimento degli indirizzi di posta elettronica di coloro=
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che erano iscritti alle liste, indirizzi che sfortunatamente non abbiamo.
Prego coloro che sono interessati a ricevere i messaggi pubblicati sulla=20
lista Tango Italia o sulla lista Florida Tango, di mandare un messaggio di=20
posta elettronica a me o ad Enrico a uno dei seguenti indirizzi:
e_mass @msn.com
mmirella @aol.com=20
con l'indicazione del proprio indirizzo di e-mail e della lista a cui sono=20
interessati.
Solo cos=C3=AC Enrico potr=C3=A0 ripristinare le liste.
Ringrazio per la collaborazione e auguro a tutti tanghi di sogno.
Mirella
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