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There are 5 messages totalling 316 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. What's up with L.A. Tango?
2. Bs As Hotels
3. what eva shall a waya
4. Men: Expect to be asked
5. More "Symptoms of a Tango Junkie"
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:36:53 -0500
From: Naomi Bennett <naomiben @SWBELL.NET>
Subject: What's up with L.A. Tango?
I just danced in LA (Burbank on Friday and Sherman Oaks on Sat) and Costa
Mesa, Ca on Sunday this weekend.
the tango dancing was fine there although I was told that many dancers were
missing since there was a tango weekend happening in Las Vegas.
Like most places, the men tended to dance with women they knew. So, I
started to ask the men to dance. No one said no. That way, I didn't sit
too long. It also helps to stay late into the dance. More of the women
leave and there are less of them for the men to choose from, therefore, I
start getting more dances in the late of the night.
And like in most cities I visit, there are some men that only dance with
the very sweet pretty young things and don't give a thought to the other
women. Their loss in my book since I am an attractive 40ish woman in full
bloom.
Larry de Los Angeles was warm and friendly to me with his posts and dancing
on Fri and Sat. The host of the Costa Mesa milonga on Sunday was a kick.
What a personality. He used to be a DJ and made little commentaries with
the songs, "I know some couples that dance nude to this one!"
>Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 12:21:13 +0000
>From: Larry Carroll <larrydla @JUNO.COM>
>Subject: What's up with L.A. Tango?
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>You might expect someone who signs himself Larry de Los Angeles to tell
>you that LA is an absolutely wonderful city & that the tango scene here
>is the world s best. But I won t.
>
>The fact is that (despite the recent postings of a couple of grumpy
>women) Los Angeles is simply yet another large city. The tango scene is
>what you ll find everywhere, with the sort of regional variations you
>might expect.
>
>That means, among other things, that you ll find wonderful people &
>self-centered, mean-hearted people. You ll find all the variations in
>tango style that you see anywhere else. You ll find terrific dancers,
>incompetents & beginners (who are not by any means identical!), & all
>the shadings in between.
>
>Criticisms of LA tell you much more about the people who make them than
>about the city. In the end, how much you enjoy dancing tango here in LA
>depends most on your own physical & (more importantly) spiritual
>resources.
> Larry de Los Angeles
> http://home.att.net/~larrydla
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:47:25 -0500
From: Naomi Bennett <naomiben @SWBELL.NET>
Subject: Re: Bs As Hotels
If you think in wider terms, there are hotels cheap in San Telmo for $25 a
night, such as Hotel Victoria. Very basic and you must be careful at
night. The two best neighbors are Recoleta and Palermo.
Hotel Uraguay is a popular hotel for traveling tango people. It isn't far
from your location. Personally, I like the tango apartments that people
rent to tango people. You get a room, share the bath and kitchen. You
socialize with each other and talk about where to tango and what it was like.
Please remember that the subte (subway) can get you many, many places but
they close by 10 so then a bus or taxi must be taken home from most
milongas. The rates are very affordable, about $3 to 5 for most distances.
At 06:44 PM 9/9/2000 +0000, you wrote:
>(I m posting this request for info to TANGO-L because I think it is of
>general interest; my specific concerns are a sort of average of many
>other people s. So you might want to reply to the list rather than
>directly to me.)
>
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:33:45 -0500
From: Naomi Bennett <naomiben @SWBELL.NET>
Subject: what eva shall a waya
Dear Chas:
The more I tango, the less I wear, the more I bare.
>Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:14:07 -0600
>From: Chas Gale <Chuck.Gale @IHSENERGY.COM>
>Subject: what eva shall a waya
> Come on Larry, you can't bail now. We need your advice on dress slits.
>Exactly where and how high should they be? Can a slit go to the waist? Can
>they be in front? Can they be in back? Can any length dress have a slit?
>How about TWO stilts? One on each side? One in back, one in front? How
>about one in front but off-set to expose the thigh. Can THAT slit go to the
>waist? And while you're on the subject, how about ladies underwear? Is it
>tacky for the panty part of the panty hose to show through the slit? Are no
>hose OK? How about garter belts? Can THEY show through the slit? And what
>about panty lines? In the right dress, even a thong can show lines. Is that
>OK or do you recommend no panties?
> You don't want the girls to show up naked do you?.....ah,... well OK,
>bad example. But don't desert us now. Please share your fashion wisdom.
>
>Chas "the ever sarcastic" Gale, Denver, Colorado, USA
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 00:17:40 -0500
From: Naomi Bennett <naomiben @SWBELL.NET>
Subject: Men: Expect to be asked
I just finished my fourth trip to B.A. and just came back from a weekend in
LA and Costa Mesa, Ca.
I had a very important conversation with Mary in Calif, a sparkling
personality, blond, blue eyes, thin and in her 50's. We had too very
different experiences in B.A.
I have been following the B.A. manners of asking men with the eyes for a
dance. There are many afternoon milongas that was easy, less formal and
laid back. I received many dances at these milongas but mostly with the
same group of men. There were many that would only dance with women that
they already knew. Most of the people in the afternoon milongas are
50-60-70. After a while I got a bit tired of dancing with men older than
I. I was interested in viejos milongeros not milongeros viejos.
So I was also going to the evening milongas. I must say, it is tough as a
foreign woman to get a dance at night. There are so many local women there
to compete with. Many men would look right back at me but through me and
then slowly move their glance, like they didn't see me. I got tired of
waiting an hour or more between dances. If the milongero was well known,
he filled his dance card with sweet young things that could really dance
well. Other's cruised the room slowly and selectively. Others sat and
watched for hours. Remember these men are there every night and have been
for several years. They have the time to be very selective. Anyway to
dance with only 2-3 men in a 4 hour period was boring. When I sat with
another very pretty American with beautiful blond hair and face, that
helped. When I was invited to a table with a famous well know milongero,
that helped with the quality and quantity of the dances that night. Even
Omar Vega asked me to dance that night.
I had not changed those nights, my companions at my table made a difference.
Mary went to B.A. and didn't follow the code. She asked the best dancers
and was bold about it. She didn't speak spanish either. She was not an
exceptional dancer, She was not young. She did have personality. What I
got from her was not to follow the code down there, or anywhere. Because
of her boldness, a very famous milongero started dancing with her for
hours. This encouraged other men to be waiting for her to sit down at her
table so they could ask her.
So, in LA and Costa Mesa last weekend, I started asking more. It worked
pretty well. I have yet to visit S.F, Portand or Miami yet, but they are
on my list of places to dance. I haven't been to Paris or Berlin yet but I
probably will in 2001. I will return to Madrid and Amsterdam this year in
December.
So, all you men in those cities, watch for me and you can expect me to ask
for a dance. I will not be sitting out the night for you to discover me.
I will be saying: ?Bailamos, sen~or???
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:31:56 +1000
From: Sandy Smith <sg.smith @QUT.EDU.AU>
Subject: More "Symptoms of a Tango Junkie"
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Dear List,
at a recent tango party, where we christened the purpose built tango salon,=
=20
we ran a competition to make further additions to the excellent "Symptoms=20
of a Tango Junkie" website (http://users.javanet.com/~kells/tSymptoms.html).
We thought you might be interested in some of our suggestions.
sandy
1. You build a new house and design it around the tango salon.
2. You not only know who Carlos Gardel is, but you will stay awake=20
till 1am to watch one of his B grade movies when your VCR isn't working.
3. You are 'on call' any time.
4. You run red lights and cross against the 'Don't Walk' sign just so=
=20
you won't be late for tango.
5. You cannot contemplate life with a partner who doesn't dance tango.
6. It's better than chocolate.
7. You have the word tango as part of your email address.
8. You appraise every single man you meet as a possible tango recruit.
9. You have the video recorder button on pause and are ready to record=
=20
any snippet of tango music, trivia etc that may appear on TV. And then=20
spend hours editing each snippet onto one tape and make copies for your=20
tango buddies.
And the Winners were:
=B7 You have confessed to your partner that you want your ashes to go=
=20
to Buenos Aires if you don't get there before you die.
=B7 You have noticed that your cat does perfect ochos on your legs=
when=20
he is hungry - and you are envious.
=B7 (For women). When you bump into somebody on the street, you take=
=20
three steps back and cross your ankles.
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<font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times" size=3D4>Dear List,<br>
at a recent tango party, where we christened the purpose built tango
salon, we ran a competition to make further additions to the excellent
"Symptoms of a Tango Junkie" website
(</font><a href=3D"http://users.javanet.com/%7Ekells/tSymptoms.html"=
eudora=3D"autourl">http://users.javanet.com/~kells/tSymptoms.html</a>).<br>
<font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times" size=3D4>We thought you might be
interested in some of our suggestions.<br>
sandy<br>
<br>
1.<x-tab> </x-tab></font><font=
face=3D"Arial, Helvetica">You
build a new house and design it around the tango salon.<br>
</font><font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times"=
size=3D4>2.<x-tab> </x-tab></font><font=
face=3D"Arial, Helvetica">You
not only know who Carlos Gardel is, but you will stay awake till 1am to
watch one of his B grade movies when your VCR isn't working.<br>
</font><font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times"=
size=3D4>3.<x-tab> </x-tab></font><font=
face=3D"Arial, Helvetica">You
are 'on call' any time.<br>
</font><font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times"=
size=3D4>4.<x-tab> </x-tab></font><font=
face=3D"Arial, Helvetica">You
run red lights and cross against the 'Don't Walk' sign just so you won't
be late for tango.<br>
</font><font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times"=
size=3D4>5.<x-tab> </x-tab></font><font=
face=3D"Arial, Helvetica">You
cannot contemplate life with a partner who doesn't dance tango.<br>
</font><font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times"=
size=3D4>6.<x-tab> </x-tab></font><font=
face=3D"Arial, Helvetica">It's
better than chocolate.<br>
</font><font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times"=
size=3D4>7.<x-tab> </x-tab></font><font=
face=3D"Arial, Helvetica">You
have the word tango as part of your email address.<br>
</font><font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times"=
size=3D4>8.<x-tab> </x-tab></font><font=
face=3D"Arial, Helvetica">You
appraise every single man you meet as a possible tango recruit.<br>
</font><font face=3D"Times New Roman, Times"=
size=3D4>9.<x-tab> </x-tab></font><font=
face=3D"Arial, Helvetica">You
have the video recorder button on pause and are ready to record any
snippet of tango music, trivia etc that may appear on TV. And then spend
hours editing each snippet onto one tape and make copies for your tango
buddies.<br>
<br>
<b>And the Winners were:<br>
</b></font><font face=3D"Symbol"=
size=3D4>=B7<x-tab> </x-tab></font=
><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica">You
have confessed to your partner that you want your ashes to go to Buenos
Aires if you don't get there before you die.<br>
</font><font face=3D"Symbol"=
size=3D4>=B7<x-tab> </x-tab></font=
><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica">You
have noticed that your cat does perfect ochos on your legs when he is
hungry - and you are envious.<br>
</font><font face=3D"Symbol"=
size=3D4>=B7<x-tab> </x-tab></font=
><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica">(For
women). When you bump into somebody on the street, you take three steps
back and cross your ankles.<br>
</font></html>
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