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Digest from 14 May 2000
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Subject: TANGO-L Digest - 14 May 2000 to 15 May 2000 (#2000-132)
There are 2 messages totalling 110 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Cruel Tango Hierarchies
2. Viva Tango
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Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 16:04:57 EDT
From: WHITE 95 R <white95r @HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Cruel Tango Hierarchies
Mel, Felix and Stephen,
I have had a very different experience with Salsa (I don't know as much
about CW). It is true that Salsa is a very popular and accessible dance. It
is also true that many more people participate in it that in tango, many of
them just come in to hang out and see who thety can meet, etc.
It is however not true that "there is less of a connection between dance
skills and acceptability as a dance partner (or concern about one's dance
skills) than I see in the tango community." (Felix), or " Salsa dancing is
substantially different than tango dancing. Salsa is in an outward dance.
Tango is an inward focussed dance--sometimes described as a feeling that is
danced." (Stephen) or " (Unlike tango, very few people take lessons in salsa
and country and western in order to excell in dancing.)"(Mel).
Even here in Atlanta there are a good size number of Salsa dancers who take
their dancing very seriously and are excellent at it. Many people in Atlanta
take Salsa lessons to get better at it and there is definitely a correlation
of skill level and who one gets to dance with. The comparison with tango is
actually very similar, both dances are all about expressing feeling and all
about feeling the music, the beat and one's partner. The difference is that
there are many, many more places to dance salsa and many more people will
casually walk in off the street and get on the dance floor to express
themselves even though they do not know how to dance salsa.
Actually, any Sunday night one can go to the Havana Club in Buckhead, or the
Deux-plex club on a Friday night, or Celebrity Rock on Wednesday nights
(there are more, I don't want to go on) and see fabulous salsa dancers who
take great pleasure in their dancing and work very hard to gain mastery over
their dance. There are far more excellent salsa dancers in Atlanta than
tango dancers but it is not because salsa is easier or taken less seriously
but rather because it is much more popular and more people do it.
If as many people danced tango here as they dance salsa, or if there were as
many places to dance tango here as there are salsa clubs, we would probably
see a much higher level of tango dancing as well. Do not make the mistake of
thinking that salsa is easier or more casual than tango. It is not, it takes
a lot of dancing (and many lessons don't hurt either) to get as good as the
"old salseros" or the "young stars" who dance every night at the salsa
clubs. If any one visits Atlanta and wants to be totally impressed by the
skill, feelings and musicality of the salsa dancers, please let me know and
I'll try to get you to the right club in the right night (of course, I'll be
happy to connect you to the local tango scene as well).
Saludos a todos,
Manuel
--- felixmilonguero @juno.com wrote:
> I notice when I
> dance salsa. At the salsa dances people just seem to
> want to have fun and
> mix and although someone might be praised for their
> dance prowess, there
> is less of a connection between dance skills and
> acceptability as a dance
> partner (or concern about one's dance skills) than I
> see in the tango
> community.
--- Stephen.P.Brown @DAL.FRB.ORG wrote:
> Salsa dancing is substantially different than
> tango dancing. Salsa is in an outward dance.
> Tango is an inward focussed dance--sometimes
> described as a feeling that is danced.
Once again I agree with Stephen. In salsa (and country
and western dancing, too) the dancing is just the
format in which people congregate to socialize.
(Unlike tango, very few people take lessons in salsa
and country and western in order to excell in
dancing.)
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Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 15:39:34 -0700
From: Jan A Gazenbeek <tangoguy16 @JUNO.COM>
Subject: Viva Tango
I am searching for information on the shows "Viva Tango" and "Tango,
Tango". I have searched the Internet but found virtually no information.
I do however believe that the shows both toured Japan. Does anyone out
there have a program from the show, advertising ads, or any photographs
from the show? Please contact me if you do. Thank you very much.
Anton Gazenbeek
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