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Subject: TANGO-L Digest - 20 Mar 2000 to 21 Mar 2000 (#2000-78)
There are 5 messages totalling 148 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. virtual milonga brawl
2. Fw: Something does not make any sense.
3. Tango history
4. Tango Pasion, Una Noche de Tango
5. CD BMG/DBN 63357 Tanturi/Castillo
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:21:06 +0000
From: James Stewart <J.K.Stewart @ED.AC.UK>
Subject: virtual milonga brawl
Interested list members might like to try out the new web site
www.tango-fight.ar
when tempers run high. Users choose their virtual weapons (knives,
guns, fists, broken bottles) from the menu and can simulate an
authentic brawl in a milonga in 1920s in a variety of authentically
reproduced locations in Bueno Aires. Points are awarded for
style, authentic lunfardo insults about parentage, virtual blood
drawn etc. Bonus points for shooting the Carlos Gardel figure on the
stage. The winner gets a year's subscription to Tango-L, the loser
must compose a 3 verse tango-cancion about how terrible life is and
how his girlfriend left him for the winner.
have fun
James Stewart
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Edinburgh Tango Society
http://www.ed.ac.uk/~jkstew/tango.html
t: +44- (0)131 650 6392 f:+44- (0)131 650 6399
Research Centre for Social Sciences J.K.Stewart @ed.ac.uk
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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:38:59 -0500
From: Enrico Massetti <e_mass @EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Subject: Fw: Something does not make any sense.
From: Sergio Suppa
> This will be my last posting. I really cannot deal with so much irrational
> behavior.
Dear Sergio,
I hope you mean "my last posting on personal matters", and not "my last
posting ever on the list".
I personally enjoyed your writings on the early years of tango, and I
invite anybody that has a different historic or academicals opinion
on what happened back then to express their different view and
interpretation. Discussions on "all aspects of tango" belong to this
list, it's OK to have a different view, you can even say that tango was
invented by the Pope in the Vatican, if you believe so, but nonsense
personal attacks do not belong here, and are of no interest to anybody.
Ciao,
Enrico
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:20:20 -0500
From: Sergio Suppa <sersupa @INFOVIA.COM.AR>
Subject: Tango history
*If you are not interested in Tango History, please, kindly delete now*.
...as I was telling you yesterday, Tango was initially danced at bars,
cafes, gambling houses, and quilombos (prostitution places). Later on,
"Dancing Houses" that provided girls for dancing and enterteinment,
appeared. The next scenario was "el patio de los conventillos"; (Boarding
houses common areas). These conventillos housed thousands of poor immigrants
from all over Europa (mostly Italy and Spain) and some from the Argentinean
interior.
They were long, open areas, bordered at both sides by rooms and kitchens;
every so often there was a shared bathroom.
Tango took many years to spread to these boarding houses because their
inhabitants were in general, decent people that did not want their families
to be exposed to that sinful music and dance. Saturdays nights and Sundays
were used to celebrate weddings, birthdays, baptisms and other holidays. It
was at these occasions that little by little somebody would ask for the
musicians to play a tango and later on somebody would dance one, purified of
the sinful moves such as "cortes y quebradas"; a simplified variety that was
inicially tolerated with disgust, but later on, anxiously expected.
It took even longer to get to the houses of the mid and high class family.
Boys of those families took the habit of going to the periphery looking for
emotions and adventure. They returned home excited by their lecherous
experiences.
They started teaching their sisters, neighbor girls, and other female
members of the large Argentinean family, such as cousins and aunts this most
unusual new dance.They were taught the "purified version" as well.
If one considers that Saborido sold about one hundred thousand samples of
his tango 'Yo soy la morocha' (I am the brunette) in the few first months of
1906; one could deduct that tango was executed fairly frequently, including
by family girls, who inserted its beats between the Blue Danube vals and Fur
Elise.
The singer Flora Rodriguez took 'La Morocha' to recordings a little later.
To cylinder first, then disk and also to perforated paper rolls for
'pianolas' (pianos that play by themselves, by activating two pedals).
The lyrics of 'La morocha' are innocent enough to be readily accepted.
This way, tango slowly spread from the periphery to the interior of the
Argentinean home.
Dispite of this, tango was still a shameful, sinful element to be dealt with
in secret. Politicians of both right and left condemned it; for they did not
want this new nation to be associated with such a 'prostibularian' dance.
How was then that tango reched Europe.... this is another story.
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:49:03 -0800
From: Anton Gazenbeek <ANN.GAZENBEEK @PRODIGY.NET>
Subject: Tango Pasion, Una Noche de Tango
Dear List,
Does anyone know if the shows Una Noche de Tango, Tango Pasion,
and Tango Para Dos have a CD or cassette soundtrack?
Anton Gazenbeek
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:58:01 +0100
From: "Hans-Peter Gollnow/EDE/EUR/CPC @CPC"
<Hans-Peter.Gollnow @EU.BESTFOODS.COM>
Subject: CD BMG/DBN 63357 Tanturi/Castillo
Titel 20 is named Recuerdo Vals. I believe it ist wrong.
It is a Vals,often played in the milongas .........
What is the name of this vals?
asking Hans-Peter
End of TANGO-L Digest - 20 Mar 2000 to 21 Mar 2000 (#2000-78)
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