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Subject: TANGO-L Digest - 30 Jun 2000 to 1 Jul 2000 (#2000-179)
There are 3 messages totalling 157 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Freedom for women in tango
2. Ithaca TangoFest Thanks!
3. Practice, practice
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 07:19:33 -0400
From: "Sa, Na-W, Na-C, Na-E, Misc" <tangomaniac @JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: Freedom for women in tango
Manuel:
I never suggested the behavior of a woman stopping in the middle of a
dance was appropriate. I merely reported what I read. The article's
context is that the woman wanted a chance to play and express her
individuality. Unfortunately, it seems that message got buried under the
notion of terminating the dance before its conclusion.
Sorry for any confusion I caused.
Michael
Manuel wrote:
> Sorry Michael, such behavior is not so good. The woman accepted the
> dance
> with that man and she should have finished it at least if not the
> whole
> "tanda". I think the only reason to stop in the middle of a tango
> would be
> that he is being innapropriate or that she or he got hurt and had to
> stop.
>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:46:15 -0400
From: Matej Oresic <matej.oresic @CORNELL.EDU>
Subject: Ithaca TangoFest Thanks!
Dear Tangueros,
thank you all who took part in the Ithaca's Summer TangoFest on June
23-25. Three great milongas, excellent instruction taught in parallel by
Miguel Angel Zotto & Angeles and Edurdo Aguirre & Yvonne Meissner,
Saturday milonga with around 150 tangueros, live music by Trio Pantango
from Buenos Aires, performances, ... with Miguel & Angeles "setting the
house on fire" with their truly outstanding performances ... and
needless to say, a great milonga atmosphere every night (we had also
different DJs on different nights, on Saturday it was Michel Auzat from
Montreal).
Tangueros came from as far as Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia,
Scranton, Syracuse, Rochester, Binghamton, NYC, Montreal, Boston,
Amherst, Durham, Washington/DC, Baltimore, even Sweden and Norway, and
of course Ithaca...
Hope you enjoyed the experience of dancing in Ithaca! Talking of
tango-exchange, local tangueros were also able to host over 40 visiting
tangueros at their homes. Many Thanks for the help!!!
'till next time!
Best,
Matej
http://lancelot.bio.cornell.edu/matej/tango/
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:30:29 -0700
From: ramiro garcia <ramiro9 @YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Practice, practice
But what if they don't know what they really want? :-)
> This is the chance to tell the guys what you really want!
What if what they Really Want changes from moment to moment?
What if what they want is to have a warm, intimate, friendly,
enjoyable dance experience that thrills their hearts, and what
they Don't Want is to have to analyze, focus, pay attention,
struggle, practice endless boring balance and frame and
lead-and-follow drills with imperfect, hesitant,
groping-in-the-dark, critical leaders?
What if what they want is to have enjoyable dances with great
leaders, and what they don't want is to have to go through
endless hours of not-so-enjoyable dancing with stumble-footed
types to get there?
--- andy Ungureanu <Andy.Ungureanu @T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:
> Melanie Archer schrieb:
> > I didn't see mention of another reason for followers'
> hesitation to indulge
> > in practicas: the
> > unsolicited critiques we receive from leaders.
...
> To all followers!
> ...
> It is obvious that it is almost a miracle when the non verbal
> communication of two bodies is perfect. Far more usual is the
> fact there are problems...
> I first try to change and adapt my leading ...
> but it may be possible, the follower really makes
> something wrong....
> Usually I dont talk while dancing, neither teach anything in
> the milonga.
Correct. Milongas are for social dancing, not teaching,
criticizing, lecturing, or practicing.
> When I know somebody really well I might give some
> hints, the
> reaction is usually positive, e.g. "Why didnt you tell this
> earlier?"
> On the other side, I know the comments of the ladies about
> "teachers"
> trying to explain every figure they learned few days ago to
> every lady ,
> if she want it or not.
>
> Now the question(s) (to be answered only by followers):
>
> What do you prefer?? Should we talk about it? while dancing?
> after the dance? Not at all?
> Do you prefer only positive comments? (Do you really believe
> them? They
> usually depend upon the way you look tonight)
> Did you try to explain to the leader, something about his
> leading is not
> OK? Or do you fear he will never ask you again?
=====
ramiro garcia
ramiro9 @yahoo.com
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Men are qualified for civil liberties, in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their appetites: in proportion
as their love of justice is above their rapacity.
- Edmund Burke
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