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Subject: TANGO-L Digest - 18 Jun 2000 to 19 Jun 2000 (#2000-167)
There are 5 messages totalling 218 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. women in waiting
2. Women waiting and wanting to dance
3. your favorite walking steps
4. What to take with you (was: Re: Risky behavior
5. USTC Tango Fantasy Thank You
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 19:49:35 -0500
From: I am Always at Local Bar <shallwemeet @LOCALBAR.COM>
Subject: Re: women in waiting
Dear Ladies in waiting:
May I give you an advice on what to do while you wait:
1. Sit tight. Milongueros honor waiting that is characterized by expectancy
and trust, by firmness and constancy of mind.
2. Don't focus on the situation. You don't have to figure everything out;
trust the milonguero to do that. Take your mind off appearances and focus
on the milonguero. Once you trust the milonguero, he will enable you to
wait.
3. Don't focus on others' remarks. From the judgmental types to the
well-meaning types, if you let your mind run among all the various
perspectives, you will feel not only dizzy but defeated.
4. Don't focus on yourself. The greatest threat to waiting is self-pity.
The tendency to focus on self is recurrent and must be dealt with on a
continuing basis. Instead of focusing on me, and feeling sorry for me,
choose to turn your eyes outward again and fix them on the milonguero.
5. Sit productively. Read Tango-L posts: it is a goad to break up the pity
party. Be honest with the milonguero about your feelings. Seek and claim
his promises.
6. Benefit from the wait. Those who wait - with their minds on the
milonguero - will gain peace and a growing bond between him and you.
7. Stay busy. Actively pursue obedience and adjusting to what the
milonguero has for you this day. Spend your time loving people, enjoying
your family or work, seeking balance in all areas of your life, seeing
conflict as a challenge, and taking advantage of every opportunity to share
the milonguero with the people around you.
Always in love with women and the Tango,
Alberto Gore, Jr.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:11:57 EDT
From: Frank Sasson <FRSASSON @AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Women waiting and wanting to dance
Hi Chris:
In answer to my question, you wrote:
The answer seems very simple to me. Ask her to
dance. If she prefers to
dance only with her escort, she can politely say
no thank you.
The problem is not "Just asking the lady to dance" !!!!
The problem is how and when to break that gentlemanly protocol of not asking
a lady to dance if she has shown up with another man !
And further, the problem is not the man's problem, because there are usually
plenty of ladies to dance with, The reference is more directed towards how
can a lady let the men know that she is available to dance with, and that it
doesn't matter if she came in with another man ! (other than the lady asking
the men, for example).
That was the question I was asked by this lady friend of mine.
In a message dated 06/12/2000 6:45:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
humphrey @MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU writes:
<< Frank Sasson wrote:
.....I have been guilty of not
dancing with a lady that came in with a male
tanguero, when I saw her sitting
alone, using the respectful protocol of not
interfering with a lady who
happens to be with another man.
Can you ladies offer some suggestions as to how
to solve this problem?
The answer seems very simple to me. Ask her to
dance. If she prefers to
dance only with her escort, she can politely say
no thank you.
Chris Humphrey
>>
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:17:29 -0400
From: sue stigleman <stigleman311 @EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: your favorite walking steps
I'd like to ask people what their favorite walking steps are. I know that
the tango is in theory all walking steps, but what I mean here is the kind
of stuff that is meant when someone says "he mostly walked and changed
direction, with no turns".
For example, one leader that I danced with did a step that felt really neat.
Although I couldn't analyze it while following, I asked him about it later,
and it turned out to be stepping to the left (leader's left), shifting into
crossed feet, and then stepping forward to the right of the follower.
(Similar to steps 1 and 2 or 2 and 3 of the D8CB with crossed feet, but
going to the opposite side of the follower.) I know there are thousands of
simple little 2-3 step walking sequences like this, but what are your
favorite variations? Or favorite timing variations to these little pieces?
To put my question in context, I'm developing a very new tango community in
Asheville, NC, where there tango students can't go to milongas and watch
people dance and pick up these little things. I try to pick them up when I
travel, and I encourage the people here to improvise with the fundamental
atoms of the tango, but I think some more examples might help open people's
eyes to the possibilities.
Thanks!
--sue
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 10:33:16 -0500
From: "kata @pitton.com" <kata @PITTON.COM>
Subject: What to take with you (was: Re: Risky behavior
I could contribute a lot about Argentinean men, sex in BsAs, etc. But I
really don't think this list is the place for it.
However, this may be the place for a little travel advice. I've been taking
groups abroad for over a decade and I tell them all the same thing:
It's a good idea to take everything you need and prefer in the way of birth
control, contact supplies, Tampax, medication, etc., no matter where you're
going. You may have a hard time finding what you need when you need it.
Take as much as you need, plus enough for an extra few days ('cause you
never know). Take medicine in the original bottles/boxes and take a copy
of the Rx (including eye Rx) -- just in case. Turista preparado vale por
dos. :-)
>Furthermore Argentineans strongly dislike American made
>condoms because they are too big and too thick.
Some US condoms are of normal thickness, some are really very thin. As for
US condoms being too big...
Que queres que te diga? ;-)
saludos,
Kate
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:27:46 EDT
From: Randy Pittman <MailAlive @AOL.COM>
Subject: USTC Tango Fantasy Thank You
Hola Milongueros & Tangueras:
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
From both Lydia Henson and I (Randy Pittman), a thank you to one and all
that participated in the fun exciting nonstop USTC Tango Fantasy on Miami
Beach, or shall we say the Tango marathon on Miami Beach. Nine nights and
days dancing tango from 9:00 am to 1:00am that we will never forget.
After counting all the ticket stubs from the half day passes, daily passes,
Milongas only, week congress, weekend congress the finial count is in.
Over 270 joined in the master workshops throughout the weekend and the week.
We averaged over 300 plus attending all the Milongas, Sunday, May 28th over
450, Friday, June 2nd over 500 and Saturday, June 3rd over 600 attended the
show and the Milonga.
Lydia and I have received many wonderful notes from those that attended. To
our surprise many notes from those that missed this years festivities and
would like to attend next year. Again, thank you to all that helped make the
USTC Tango Fantasy 2000 the fun and exciting event we all enjoyed.
We have our dates for the 2001 USTC Tango Fantasy, May 25 thru June 2. Make
your plans early to join us for Tango Fantasy on Miami Beach 2001.
Tango Forever
Randy & Lydia
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