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There are 4 messages totalling 181 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. censorship/dresses
2. Buenos Aires 2000! Tango Festival
3. Walking (was relaxing)
4. relaxing
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Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 08:01:36 -0400
From: rtara <rtara @MAINE.RR.COM>
Subject: Re: censorship/dresses
on 7/21/00 7:28 PM, Larry Carroll at larrydla @JUNO.COM wrote:
> Sorry, Astrid, Eugenia, for any unnecessary roughness.
>
> Actually, I AM finding the discussion of women's shoes interesting,
> even though I will (please, God!) never wear them myself. Nor will I
> ever wear a dress. But here I have lots of interest & (surprise!)
> opinions.
>
> Like - please, don't wear long dresses with fringes, or short dresses
> with long fringes, especially. The damn things can catch a woman's
> heels or ankles, & I've come close to wrenching my back saving
> partners from falling. I also don't like long dresses, period. They
> get in the way of ganchos, which I lead fairly often. (Many of the
> women I dance with love ganchos & spend lots of time working on
> them. And if I don't include at least a couple of ganchos some of them
> will whisper a request in my ear.)
I just want to remind the women who prefer to dance tango as a social dance
that it is possible to avoid the gancho when it is led by doing a small,
low kick over your own ankle rather than a large, potentially dangerous
gancho of the man. Much more elegant. Same goes for boleos. They can be kept
very low and close to the floor. This is a useful trick when dancing in a
crowded milonga and much more appropriate in most social settings. Sometimes
the man will look at me in confusion, thinking I did not follow his lead.
This let's me know that he is probably an inexperienced leader and I gently
reassure him that I got the lead, but prefer not to execute large ganchos
and boleos except on stage or in a practica.
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 15:49:20 EDT
From: Daniela Arcuri <DATango @AOL.COM>
Subject: Buenos Aires 2000! Tango Festival
Buenos Aires 2000
Tango Festival
November 27 to December 2, 2000
As coordinators and artistic directors, Daniela Arcuri & Armando Orzuza,
invite you to this new tango festival in Buenos Aires Argentina, "Buenos
Aires 2000", sponsored by Legislatura de la Ciudad de Buenos Aires,
Secretaria de Turismo del Gobierno de La Ciudad de Buenos Aires, & 92.7 FM de
la Ciudad, produced by El Fueye Productions, Diego Rivarola & Raul
Goldsztejn, Directors.
This event is going to take place in the brand new hotel "Holiday Inn
Abasto", four star hotel across the street of the "Carlos Gardel home", and
"El mercado del Abasto" 5 minutes from down town Buenos Aires.
Teachers:
Daniela Arcuri & Armando Orzuza
Osvaldo Sotto & Lorena Ermocida
Jorge Firpo & Aurora Lubiz
Facundo & Kely Posadas
Alejandro Sanguinetti & Karin Solana
Pocho Pizarro & Patricia Vero Kay
Nestor & Patricia Rey
Sebastian Arce & Mariana Montes
Special guest:
Juan Caros Copes
Milena Plebs
More teachers to be announced.
Milongas every nights, five different orchestras, and special guest DJ "Felix
Picherna", show with the masters at "Teatro de la Rivera", in the famous
barrio de La Boca, conferences with masters of the tango history and much,
much more!
Don't miss this fabulous event in the real scene of tango,
in the city of Buenos Aires, Argentina!
Prices:
To September 30th: $490
From October 1st : $550
For booking and information.
Please contact Daniela & Armando
e-mail stproductions @aol.com
or call at: (818) 487-8516.
Strictly Tango Productions
Daniela Arcuri & Armando Orzuza, Directors
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 21:13:40 -0400
From: michael ditkoff <tangomaniac @JUNO.COM>
Subject: Walking (was relaxing)
Astrid earlier wrote to Lisa about a way of walking.
"Instead of simply pushing your foot straight forward you turn your foot
slightly outward and slide along not on the sole but on the inner edge of
the foot (same backward)."
My teacher taught me this "hook step" very early in my dancing and it has
paid off handsomely. Think of a tight rope walker. The walker always has
one foot directly in front of the other to maintain balance. Also, after
each step, the walker's foot is pointed outwards to help maintain
balance.
The way you walk outside is the way you dance inside at milongas. Be sure
you brush your knees with each step. This will cause your feet to go
backwards in a straight line. Some women think they are walking in a
straight line backwards, but they're not. Their right foot goes backward
in a diagonal line pulling them away from their partner. Also, when going
backward, reach from the hip. After the foot is back, then move your body
over the foot.
Using the hook step and keeping one foot behind the other with them
turned outward and NOT inward (pigeon toed) will ensure you go straight.
Thanks for raising the topic, Astrid. I haven't seen it discussed on the
list.
Michael
I'd rather be dancing argentine tango.
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 20:20:55 +0000
From: Larry Carroll <larrydla @JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: relaxing
So far the suggestions for relaxing enough (to assume a good posture,
to do other things) have focused on physical techniques. Another kind
of solution are mental/emotional techniques.
The most important is simply practice. After enough practice in a
physical skill it becomes automatic; you won't be nervous about it
because you don't even think about it. You also must practice an
even more important skill - not being nervous!
How do you do THAT? Get used to making mistakes & recovering from them.
Get used to being less than perfect & accepting that. Every profes-
sional dancer that you see performing has managed this - at least once
they get on stage; many of them still have pre-stagefright. But once
they get on stage habit takes over; they know if they keep on going the
errors so glaring to them probably won't even be noticed by 99% of the
audience. The same is true of social dancers doing improvised dances.
Another technique is to focus on something outside yourself. Focus on
your partner, on helping them. Focus on the music, try to enjoy it. For
leaders, focus on flowing with the rest of dancers. Use the selfish
showoffs & the incompetents as emotionally-neutral obstacles like the
side of the dance floor or a pillar in the middle of the floor - as
challenges on the way to cultivating your Zen-dance skills.
Larry de Los Angeles
http://home.att.net/~larrydla
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