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Subject: TANGO-L Digest - 13 Jan 2000 to 14 Jan 2000 (#2000-13)
There are 4 messages totalling 155 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Think (and Feel) Tango - long
2. Lonely in Buenos Aires - a little long (2)
3. Narrowing the search.
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:39:14 +0100
From: Natarajan Balasundara <rajan @EMC.COM>
Subject: Re: Think (and Feel) Tango - long
Original Message-----
From: Brannigan, Mary <Mary.Brannigan @WWIRELESS.COM>
Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 11:39 PM
>> In closing, I'd like to state that I agree with Stephen's opinion
that
>> <snip> Michael seems to be offering good advice. Relaxing may help
open
>> the channels to the unconscious mind and better enable one to dance
in a
>> creative flow. <end snip> This is *great advice for the intermediate
to
>> advanced dancer.
Emotions and adrenaline are known to have effect on short-term memory(as
in whether one can remember what was said 3 minutes ago) and if so, if
it
will have an opportunity to get fixed in the long-term memory (a
process
which is supposed to happen when asleep) and hence, relaxing may help
in learning.
So, I guess the sequence would be: concentrate, practice, sleep on it.
rajan.
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:15:34 -0500
From: SERGIO <SERGIO @NCINTER.NET>
Subject: Re: Lonely in Buenos Aires - a little long
Original Message-----
From: C21DARI @aol.com [mailto:C21DARI @aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 10:46 AM
To: SERGIO @ncinter.net
Subject: Re: Lonely in Buenos Aires - a little long
I am forwarding a message from C21Dari @aol.com who send it to me by mistake.
<<Dear Steve and List:
I'm really sorry Steve of your perception about Argentineans and their care
about foreigners, 2 and a half month of total time there and that time
divided into a 3 visits may be not enough to get to know those folks very
well, when I was there I've started conversation with complete estrangers
and guess what?, it worked they responded very warm and positive to me,
they think I'm a foreigner too
9I've been living in America long enough to have a very little accent when I
speak Spanish there and certain people ask me where am I from! I'm a male
not known
by the crowd walking down town BA and I believe that is my call to start to
get myself known in a place, when I came to NY the first time I don't
remember any person coming to greet me and I felt complete along when I was
walking
the crowded Manhattan streets, I don't see to much difference in treatment
by people of these two towns neither I see the difference on people of
Rome, Madrid or Asuncion.
Have you ever been in the small towns of Argentina? you will notice the
difference as you will see it in also small towns inside America or Italy,
Spain, Paraguay or any country in the world, I believe that crowded
cities
have always
people rushing and not having time for others, but if you get to know a
little bit more the common people, you will see how worm they are I think
it's all on you!
When you go to dance Tango there, introduce yourself to one or two ladies
at the Milonga asking for help saying that you are from..... , and believe
me that (if you are fair good dancer) they will pay attention and will
promote you among their friends, (they are worm people) that approach
worked for me in different occasions that I've visited BA, (as any aspect
of
life if you want to get known you have to promote yourself )
PS don't forget this please : BA is not Argentina , neither Washington
is USA, nor Rome is Italy, get to know the people sometimes it takes an
effort from our side
Have good Tangos and give Argentineans another chance please !!!
Dario >>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:06:00 -0800
From: Ruddy Zelaya <ruddy.zelaya @ENG.SUN.COM>
Subject: Re: Lonely in Buenos Aires - a little long
Hola Naifas y Garabos, <-- Hello Ladies and Gentlemen in Lunfardo
I read C21DARI @aol.com message (kindly posted by SERGIO @NCINTER.NET
on his behalf) with mixed emotions. On the one hand the message
shows how distressful someone's bad opinion can be to people who care
about their country, culture, etc., that they feel compelled to
respond with a cry of "give Argentineans another chance please !!!"
On the other hand, I don't believe that Steve's message had the
intention of pilloring all Argentines. I happen to know Steve
and I'm certain that that was not his intention -- being an MD
at Stanford University Medical Center's ER, Steve is well aware
of the motto "first, do no harm." His follow up message said
as much (which is more than we got from the source of another
heated debate on this list not so many days ago.) His opinions as
well as his experiences are his to hold and express. We should consider
them as justr another facet (albeit a dark one) in the jewel that
is Buenos Aires for all of us to ponder and compare against.
By the way, Dario's postscrip, "don't forget this please : BA is not
Argentina" is amply demonstrated at the New York Times 2000 Around
The World project. When selecting the time zone for Argentina I was
expecting to see a picture of couples dancing tango in the shadow of
the obelisk in Buenos Aires or some such. Instead, I saw something
completely unexpected. Check it out yourself at:
http://www.nytimes.com/library/photos/timezone_seventeen.1.html
Best regards,
---
ruddy
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 01:27:05 EST
From: Charles Roques <Crrtango @AOL.COM>
Subject: Narrowing the search.
Greetings,
I'm still searching for the song "El Divorcio", a milonga. I have more
information to add. The version was recorded by a group named "Orquesta
Tipica de Argentina" and sung by Chaco Flores. It is part of a personal tape
someone made so it may have come from either a solo CD or from a recorded
compilation. There does appear to be a clarinet that plays very closely with
the bandoneon melody. Not sure though.
Any info much appreciated.
Cheers,
Charles Roques
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