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Digest from 9 Jan 2000 to 10 Jan 2000

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There are 5 messages totalling 210 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Another simple male lead
  2. Inquiry about Metin
  3. Get Up and Dance
  4. Now a beginner next a "poor dancer"
  5. Guillermo y Humberto




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Date:    Sun, 9 Jan 2000 14:45:24 -0600
From:    Naomi Bennett <naomiben  @SWBELL.NET>
Subject: Another simple male lead

Last night I was dancing with an Austin man that is much shorter than I and
latino.  He has been dancing for only 6 months so he does simple figures.
But last night, I so enjoyed walking with him.  He has so much musicality
in his steps that it felt like his feet were playing the major melody of
that tango.  There was barely an ocho in that dance, and not one giro, yet
it was completely enjoyable and interesting how he choose to dance to the
music.  The whole tango was just steps but the music was felt in the body
very well.
Naomi Bennett, Austin, TX





Date:    Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:15:16 -0800
From:    AisA <aisstilla  @YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Inquiry about Metin

Does any know hot to get in touch with Metin ? I heard
he was coming to New York.

Thanks
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Date:    Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:13:32 -0500
From:    Liz Borodkin <elizabeth.v.borodkin  @US.ARTHURANDERSEN.COM>
Subject: Re: Get Up and Dance

Great comment!  From what I hear, this is especially true for beginner women who
want to learn Tango.  While it's important to take classes and go to practicas,
the only way to really learn to dance is...to go out there and dance.  However,
I have a dilemma.  I have been dancing for about three months - mostly taking
classes, rather than dancing at milongas.  Just recently I finally got
courageous enough to go out and dance.  While I've been told that I'm doing good
for a beginner, my dance is clearly nowhere near where I  (or my dance partners)
would like it to be.  It will probably take me another few months to learn well
enough to feel comfortable dancing at milongas; but before that happens, while
my skill is not quite up to par, I may develop a reputation for being a poor
dancer.  For right now, men are cutting me some slack because they know I'm a
beginner, but I will lose that "beginner" status pretty soon and will simply
become known as a bad dancer.  Any ideas?

Liza


To:   TANGO-L  @mitvma.mit.edu
cc:     (bcc: Elizabeth V. Borodkin)
Date: 01/07/2000 10:56 AM
From: Michael.B.Ditkoff  @usdoj.gov
Subject:  Get Up and Dance




     David Rodriguez called himself a "big fat chicken" because of his
     intimidation of "not being able to provide the type of lead which I so
     admire."

     David, the ONLY way you will get the type of lead you admire is to Get
     Up and Dance at milongas. Lessons are a waste of money if you're not
     going to dance what you have learned. Dancing at practicas is for
     practice, not dancing. At practicas, you can stop in the middle of
     tango to work on a particular problem. The lights are usually near
     maximum brightness so that couples can look at their feet and figure
     out why correct execution of a figure isn't happening. At milongas,
     the opposite occurs. The lights are usually low, bordering on pitch
     black, and couples shouldn't stop on the dance floor (especially in
     crowded traffic) and figure out why correct execution isn't happening.

     The true test of a dancer is how well (s)he dances in the "real
     world," i.e. milongas. There may not be room for a man to lead the
     figure he has been working on for weeks. A woman may be frustrated
     because she isn't given a chance to play. You dance anyway.

     I use to think I had to shove everything I knew into every tango. Then
     I watched my teacher dance. He didn't shove everything he knew into a
     3:22 tango, so why should I.

     IMHO, women appreciate being treated as women on the dance floor. When
     they accept an offer to dance, they are silently saying "Take me, lead
     me, protect me." Of all the women I've danced with in the past 15
     months, only ONE complained that I wasn't leading enough figures.
     After the tango, I introduced her to a tanguero who wore her out in
     two dances.

     I don't have to be the best dancer at a milonga, I just have to be
     good. When I realized I didn't have to compete with other men to have
     women dance with me, a tremendous burden was lifted off my shoulders.
     Now I could relax. There will always be better dancers than me. That's
     not going to stop me from dancing tango.

     It's time for you to get off the bench and into the game. You wrote
     "So if you see me standing looking like I am waiting for something to
     happen it s because I am a big fat chicken." Take it from me, nothing
     is going to happen unless you make it happen.




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Date:    Sun, 9 Jan 2000 17:25:26 -0500
From:    SERGIO <SERGIO  @NCINTER.NET>
Subject: Now a beginner next a "poor dancer"

Liz wrote:
>Great comment!  From what I hear, this is especially true for beginner
women who
>want to learn Tango.  While it's important to take classes and go to
practicas,
>the only way to really learn to dance is...to go out there and dance.
However,
>I have a dilemma.  I have been dancing for about three months - mostly
taking
>classes, rather than dancing at milongas.  Just recently I finally got
>courageous enough to go out and dance.  While I've been told that I'm doing
good
>for a beginner, my dance is clearly nowhere near where I  (or my dance
partners)
>would like it to be.  It will probably take me another few months to learn
well
>enough to feel comfortable dancing at milongas; but before that happens,
while
>my skill is not quite up to par, I may develop a reputation for being a
poor
>dancer.  For right now, men are cutting me some slack because they know I'm
a
>beginner, but I will lose that "beginner" status pretty soon and will
simply
>become known as a bad dancer.  Any ideas?

Liz as you go to the milongas and dance, you will improve enormously.
You will learn how to follow different leaders and become more skilled.
So your reputation should be beginner, then advancing beginner, then
intermediate dancer
and finally, hopefully a great tango dancer.
Your reputation will become "poor dancer" only if you are determined to be
one.

The more you dance the better dancer you will be. This learning process is
easier for the follower than for the leader;
but men improve enormously by dancing with beginners, as they have to figure
out how to lead properly, for those ladies to understand them.       Keep
dancing and have a good time!





Date:    Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:59:35 +0000
From:    Keith Elshaw <elshaw  @INTERLOG.COM>
Subject: Guillermo y Humberto

Dear list members;

After several years of trying to get a serious film in production, I am
pleased to tell you that the National Film Board of Canada has now
approved plans to produce a documentary about Tango in Toronto. The last
dance film they produced, "Flamenco at 5:15", won an Academy Award.

In this connection, I need to contact Guillermo Merlo and the violinist
Humberto Ridolfi. If you see either of them, could you please ask them
to contact their friend Keith in Toronto by email or at 416.919.5520?

Thanks very much.

ke
ToTANGO!
http://www.interlog.com/~elshaw/ttindex.html





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