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1. Fwd: Editing of Paragraph #6 in Post entitled "Chivalry is not dea! Etc
Dated 2/6/2000
2. Dance politeness
3. Fabian Salas in San Francisco (2)
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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 08:47:27 EST
From: Arthur Greenberg <AHGberg @AOL.COM>
Subject: Fwd: Editing of Paragraph #6 in Post entitled "Chivalry is not dea!
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Hi Listeros:
I do not often repeat myself but I regret that I must submit a correction
to paragraph #6 that seems to have become garbled in transmission and that
might have caused some misinterpretation when it arrived at your computer
screen.
Paragraph #6 should read as follows:
<It is not a bad assumption to make, that people who attend a social dance,
usually are there because it is a "social" environment. There is no
justification for anyone in this environment for behaving like a pig or
smelling like a pig!
(To "pig fanciers", please forgive me for referring to pigs pejoratively. No
pig pun intended!) .......People utilize social dancing as a tool to
socialize with others who have similar reasons for being there in that social
environment. I feel that this is a pretty good premise that might go
unchallenged (even on this list). Getting to meet new friends and to get to
know them better requires "putting your best foot forward"!>
Sorry for the inconvenience of this follow up/edit to my post! My original
here in my saved posts seems to read correctly and cohesively.
I am very cognizant of and sensitive to the fact that this post must go
through a moderator and thence to the 1000 discussion list participants. I
apologize that this might cause some extra work to all concerned. I am
investigating the problem to see if I can avoid recurrences of this type of
error in the future!!!!
Thank you all for your patience!
Sincerely,
Arturo
AHGberg @aol.com
West Palm Beach, Florida, USA
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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:39:56 -0800
From: David Feldman <feldman @MATH.UVIC.CA>
Subject: Dance politeness
I want to talk about two subjects: women asking men and people interrupting
Although there has already been more than enough discussion on these
topics, I'll throw my 2 cents in.
On the subject of women asking men to dance. It seems obvious to me that
there is nothing wrong with women asking, but all this stuff about "a
gentleman will always accept" seems a little misdirected. The idea of
gentleman comes from the same system of rules where women are not
supposed to be asking. Once she does the asking, he should have the
option to decline. It might not matter if wome only ask men
occasionally, but there are communities where women ask men a lot, and
if the fellow must always say yes out of politeness, he'll never get to
choose a partner himself. Women have always had the option to decline
invitations.
It seems to me that both systems have their charms: the traditional and the
modern, but that mixing them so that one gender may not have any input on
the decision of whom to dance with is not going to make for a pleasant
night out for that gender.
As far as interrupting goes, it is certainly rude to burst in on a
conversation between two people to ask one of them to dance. It doesn't
matter (I would think) whether we're talking about two women, a man and
a woman or two men. Although I have probably been guilty of this sort of
rudeness on occasion (impatient me!), I try to catch the eye of the woman
I want to dance with and judge from her reaction whether I should hang
around and wait for a lull.
Anyway those are my opinions.
On another topic, what exciting dancing can be found in the Bay Area
Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights Feb 17 -19?
David
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:07:30 -0800
From: Sramana Mitra <sramana.mitra @UUMA.COM>
Subject: Fabian Salas in San Francisco
Hi!
Last night, Fabian Salas and Cecilia Gonzales did an exhibition
at the Broadway Studios dance. They come out of the same school
of Gustavo Naveira's experimental, modern tango explorations, and
as always, did a spectacular display of technical prowess.
It always leaves me wondering, however, why that extraordinary technical
ability is not matched with the essence of the tango - the intimacy
and the emotion that someone like a Gavito captures. Fabian had some
of the intensity, I didn't see any in Cecilia. I love her dancing,
but it doesn't entirely fulfill my image of the tango.
Also, Fabian seems to have given up some erstwhile habits of showing up
in sloppy clothing, and was formally attired. Looked very good, very
clean.
They are around this week, and will be at El Valenciano (Tuesday),
Verdi Club (Thursday).
I wish Osvaldo/Lorena & Gustavo/Giselle Anne would come our way sometime
soon. They never seem to make it here!
Sramana
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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:57:55 -0500
From: Silvia Borelli <silvia.borelli @OPERAMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Fabian Salas in San Francisco
>===== Original Message From Sramana Mitra <sramana.mitra @UUMA.COM> =====
>Hi!
>It always leaves me wondering, however, why that extraordinary technical
>ability is not matched with the essence of the tango - the intimacy
>and the emotion that someone like a Gavito captures.
Maybe you are wondering because what you saw was not a fake that professional
stage dancers are used to exhibiting on a nightly basis. You don't really
think that all that drama and passion that Gavito and Marcela demonstrate is
real? Maybe all you saw was two friends, who rarely work together, having fun,
improvising, just as they used to doing it at Cochabamba 444. Maybe they don't
feel like faking some intimacy that does not exist, even if it's an
exhibition.
Maybe, just maybe, you saw something genuine - not a tango for "Export".
And maybe, Gustavo will come to the States soon.
Maybe it's too many maybes,
Silvia.
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