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There are 7 messages totalling 275 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. The CITA 2000 Spam
2. Storing tango steps on palm computing device (2)
3. set Tango-A digest
4. MISC: Tango Spam (Re: The CITA 2000 Spam)
5. Bay Area Milonga Under the Stars
6. AT World Championships
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 02:26:53 -0700
From: Larry E Carroll <larrydla @JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: The CITA 2000 Spam
What JC was complaining about was NOT about receiving the
CITA announcement, but the harvesting of email addresses &
then using to spam people. I totally agree with her. I don't want
to receive unsolicited announcements, sales pitches, etc.
Larry de Los Angeles
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 02:33:54 -0700
From: Larry E Carroll <larrydla @JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: Storing tango steps on palm computing device
Rather than take down step patterns (whether in a computer
or notebook) it's better to learn how to break down complex
patterns into simpler ones (& maybe those into even simpler
ones). This way you can also learn to make up your own,
not just imitate someone else.
I've provided dancers with such an analytical system in my
online book (at the URL below). And I look forward to the
book by Juan Olavarria. (Will there be an English version?)
Larry de Los Angeles
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:01:37 +0200
From: Natarajan Balasundara <rajan @EMC.COM>
Subject: Re: Storing tango steps on palm computing device
When I did need to analyze something sitting right where I am,
the simplest scheme needs to note the following:
- Hands are in general fixed and need not be indicated.
- there are only two legs for each person.
- If the right and left legs are indicated, the person can be looking
only one way.
- The bodies are parallel in tago and the torso is in the middle so none
of this needs to be indicated -- can be deduced from the legs.
With this, the following symbolic scheme seems to capture all
the *constraints* using pretty much the known symbols for male
and female except that there are two variants of each(although I am
not sure you could do algebra with it ;-) :
^
/ ^
o (male right leg) \
o (male left leg) o
o
/
\
+
+
/
(female left leg) \ (female right leg)
With placing the items in the right position, one can in general describe
the rough
structure. With placing either comments or accents(such as .,; which are
supposed
to mean well known elements by the symbols perhaps more detail can be
put in). I have used it once or twice to analyze the moment(symbols are
needed only when
you get stuch trying to keep track of many things once most of the time
just trying
to remember will work as is)
Anyways, when there is some scheme finally approved by
World Argentine Tango Federation(WATF). I hope it will be simple.
Cheers!
rajan.
Original Message-----
From: Larry E Carroll <larrydla @juno.com>
To: TANGO-L @mitvma.mit.edu <TANGO-L @mitvma.mit.edu>
Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: Storing tango steps on palm computing device
>Rather than take down step patterns (whether in a computer
>or notebook) it's better to learn how to break down complex
>patterns into simpler ones (& maybe those into even simpler
>ones). This way you can also learn to make up your own,
>not just imitate someone else.
>
>I've provided dancers with such an analytical system in my
>online book (at the URL below). And I look forward to the
>book by Juan Olavarria. (Will there be an English version?)
>
> Larry de Los Angeles
> http://home.att.net/~larrydla
>
>___________________________________________________________________
>Get the Internet just the way you want it.
>Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month!
>Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:04:33 +0200
From: Christel Knorrn <christel.knorrn @BERTELSMANN.DE>
Subject: set Tango-A digest
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:56:30 +0200
From: Peter Niebert <Peter.Niebert @IMAG.FR>
Subject: MISC: Tango Spam (Re: The CITA 2000 Spam)
Cosmotango is not the only one using poster's/subscribers addresses
for sending Tango related publicity. So let's not become personal on
this point.
I guess that many of you noticed the same development as I that Tango
advertisements not addressed to lists but to individual addresses
have become rather frequent in the last year, before not.
Because of my interest in Tango, I did not care too much
initially. But receiving each announcement of some distant event five
times (sent to different mail-aliases, etc.) or more often tends to
become truely annoying.
So I think it has to be made clear that SPAM is SPAM, is annoying and
morally unacceptable, whether it concerns Tango or anything else. Now
that there is Tango-A and ATOF, this is like voluntary subscription to
receiving publicity, and that in a controllable form. People
subscribed here accept to receive advertisements from you VIA THE
LIST.
Please stop sending advertisements to personal addresses.
Peter
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:56:21 PDT
From: Pepito La Chofa <badchioce @HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Bay Area Milonga Under the Stars
Hi everyone, Stella asked me to forward this.
>Dear Listeros,
>I would like to tell you about a new upcoming exciting event in the San
>Francisco Bay Area. The first outdoor milonga. Hopefully if we have good
>attendance we will soon rival New York and Miami and Cambridge with their
>"milongas under the stars."
>In celebration of their 3rd anniversary
>the Pasta Shop and Cafe Rouge in Berkeley,
>on 1782 4th St. (University exit off Hwy 880 N) will be featuring
>Argentinian parrillada and other goodies and have kindly donated the use
of
>the space in their piazza for tango dancing.
>We'll have great music, a beautiful outdoor location and yummy treats.
>Dancing is free, the goodies cost. Time: Wednesday, Sept. 29th, 6-10 p.m.
>Everyone please come and make this a success so that maybe we can do this
on
>a regular basis.
>For any additional information call Stella
>510-655-3585.
>
>
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 00:05:32 -0400
From: Carlos Garces <carlosg @MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject: Re: AT World Championships
At 07:34 AM 9/14/99 -0700, you wrote:
>I think you are missing the point, trying to fix
>things within the championship.
Not sure who is missing the point, but given aisstilla @yahoo.com's previous
emails on the AT Professional Championships and my overall disagreement on
"aisstilla's" point of view, I'll assume I'm missing the point.
>A championship presupposes two things which AT does
>not have or prefer not to have:
>1) Technical and Artistic Standards
>2) Authorities (Judges)
Two important issues. I have a problem, though, addressing tango-l email
from somebody who prefers to use the tango-l option to remain anonymous is
not in my realm of responding to. If he/she wishes to discuss this subject
any further by identifying themselves on/off the tango-l list I'll be
willing to reply to their issues.
>
>When was the last time dancers/teachers agreed on any
>given important topic.
>Example : Heel first vs Toe first. Since neither is
>accepted as the standard, then it can not be a
>criteria...and the list will go on, until you will
>have nothing but mere subjective opinions.
>The same people who were yelling and screaming a few
>weeks ago on this list that there were no rights and
>wrongs, are defending the competition. If there is no
>right or wrong, how can you have a competition ?
>There is more than what appears to be on the surface.
>
>You want a competition, this is how it should be: Set
>the standards and may be a syllabus. Then say this is
>correct and this is how we'll judge you. Then find
>authorities who agree on these standards, and who also
>don't teach (otherwise you'll have the same problem
>you have in Ballroom, teachers judging students and
>non-students, conflict of interest ? you bet.)
>
>Who knows if I see these elements may be I'll
>participate myself.
>Until then, I am dancing as an end in itself, not as a
>means to something else.
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