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There are 13 messages totalling 499 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. <<Francia>> recorded by Troilo
2. Storing tango steps on palm computing device
3. milonga sentimental by canaro which cd? (3)
4. AT World Championships
5. The CITA 2000 Spam (2)
6. New Instructional Videos
7. Prague and Budapest Tango?
8. Madonna's Teachers
9. Sunday Milonga @ Hallandale
10. Milwaukee
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 05:48:04 -0400
From: Ira Goldstein <eyegee @LIGHTLINK.COM>
Subject: <<Francia>> recorded by Troilo
Hi, everybody!
Would someone please tell me which CD (i think it's one of those FM Tango
cd's)
has the song <<Francia>> as recorded by Troilo?
Thanks in advance,
--Ira
Ithaca, NY
Great Dancing:
<<...the Highest Intelligence in the Freest Body.>>
(Isadora Duncan)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:06:21 -0400
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= A. Contreras" <jcontrer @CMET.NET>
Subject: Re: Storing tango steps on palm computing device
It is almost ready to go to press a book by Juan Olavarria, where he desc=
ribes in one chapter a very smart system of notation, usefull not
only to describe steps and figures, but to understand how to combine figu=
res and develop improvising skills.
I'll keep all of you informed when it'll be ready.
Saludos from Chile
Jos=E9 A. Contreras
Paul Akmajian wrote:
> Dear List,
>
> Has anyone used a palm computing device (like a PalmPilot) to store tan=
go figures or to take notes on them during a workshop or class?
>
> Just curious. have one and have thought I'd like to give it a try. May=
be someone has come up with an elegant system of notation?
>
> Paul Akmajian
> Phone: 505/272-8717
> Fax: 505/272-8060
>
> Paul Akmajian
> Phone: 505/272-8717
> Fax: 505/272-8060
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:21:04 +0200
From: Mohan Pakkurti <mohan.pakkurti @KI.ERICSSON.SE>
Subject: milonga sentimental by canaro which cd?
Hi,
I heard a milonga titled "milonga sentimental" supposedly by canaro?
Can someone tell which cd this is in? it is an unusually slow milonga.
Thanks
Mohan
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:34:18 -0700
From: AisA <aisstilla @YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: AT World Championships
I think you are missing the point, trying to fix
things within the championship.
A championship presupposes two things which AT does
not have or prefer not to have:
1) Technical and Artistic Standards
2) Authorities (Judges)
When was the last time dancers/teachers agreed on any
given important topic.
Example : Heel first vs Toe first. Since neither is
accepted as the standard, then it can not be a
criteria...and the list will go on, until you will
have nothing but mere subjective opinions.
The same people who were yelling and screaming a few
weeks ago on this list that there were no rights and
wrongs, are defending the competition. If there is no
right or wrong, how can you have a competition ?
There is more than what appears to be on the surface.
You want a competition, this is how it should be: Set
the standards and may be a syllabus. Then say this is
correct and this is how we'll judge you. Then find
authorities who agree on these standards, and who also
don't teach (otherwise you'll have the same problem
you have in Ballroom, teachers judging students and
non-students, conflict of interest ? you bet.)
Who knows if I see these elements may be I'll
participate myself.
Until then, I am dancing as an end in itself, not as a
means to something else.
__________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:18:32 -0400
From: Ira Goldstein <eyegee @LIGHTLINK.COM>
Subject: Re: milonga sentimental by canaro which cd?
At 10:21 AM -0000 9/14/99, Mohan Pakkurti wrote:
>Hi,
>I heard a milonga titled "milonga sentimental" supposedly by canaro?
>Can someone tell which cd this is in? it is an unusually slow milonga.
>Thanks
>Mohan
Here you go, Mohan--
recording artist: Francisco Canaro
CD title: La Melod=EDa de Nuestro Adi=F3s
(El Bandoneon, EBCD-30)
track title: Milonga Sentimental
track number: 9
Enjoy!
--Ira
Ithaca, NY
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:21:03 +0200
From: Jean-Pierre Jacquet <jpjfilms @CYBERCABLE.FR>
Subject: Re: milonga sentimental by canaro which cd?
That is an old tune, written by Piana and Manzione, made famous early by
Carlos Gardel himself (You can hear it on Carlos Gardel, The Passion of
Tango, a Milan Sur release #44794-2 distributed by BMG records); I have
another version by Mercedes Simone con Orquestra, on the Antologia del
Tango Argentino, a Blue Moon release #99902.
Great tune, slow but with a delicious lilt.
Jean-Pierre Jacquet
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:51:40 -0700
From: JC Dill <tango @VO.CNCHOST.COM>
Subject: The CITA 2000 Spam
At 12:39 AM 9/14/99 -0700, Manuel Patino wrote:
>Saludos tangueros y tangueras:
>
>I got a notice from COSMO TANGO www.cosmotango.com about the
>upcoming Congreso Internacional de Tango Argentino to be
>held in Bs As next year. I copied a portion of the message
>for your information:
I also got that message, as I suspect many other tango-l posters.
So, in case anyone else is thinking of this trick, let me tell you:
DON'T
It is a violation of this list's rules to harvest email addresses from this
list for the purpose of sending the posters unsolicited commercial
email. That is called spamming. Just because you think we are interested
in your spam because we have posted to a mailing list about tango doesn't
mean we ARE interested in your spam.
When we no longer wish to receive emails about tango we should be able to
unsubscribe from the tango-l mailing list and be done with it. When
spammers have harvested our addresses (without our permission and against
the list rules) and then each individually add us to their opt-out mailing
lists, we then have to contact each of those spammers individually to get
them to stop spamming us. This is BAD.
So don't do it!
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:41:49 -0500
From: Stephen P Brown <Stephen.P.Brown @DAL.FRB.ORG>
Subject: New Instructional Videos
Soon the 86 instructional videos for Argentine tango, vals and milonga
will be available in North America.
In the new 1999 catalog, Bridge to the Tango offers 20 new
instructional videos for Argentine tango, vals and milonga. These new
releases brings the number of instructional videos that are currently
available in North America to 82.
Robb Green is nearly ready to release an excellent set of four
instructional videos of Argentine tango with Carlos and Alicia that is
directed by Adam Boucher (director of Tango: The Obsession), which
will bring the total number to 86.
The new videos available from Bridge to the Tango are:
1. Pepito and Suzuki Avelleneda: Basic Milonga
Originally produced by Solo Tango.
2. Pepito and Suzuki Avelleneda: Intermediate Milonga
Originally produced by Solo Tango.
3. Raul Bravo: Intermediate/Advanced Turning Figures
4. Mariano "Chicho" Frumboli: Boleos and Ganchos
5. Mariano "Chicho" Frumboli: Change of Direction Turns
6 & 7. Luis Grodona and Marta Anton: Cayengue I & II
(2 tape set) Originally produced by Solo Tango.
8. Pablo Inza and Veronica Alvarenja: Introduction to Stage Tango
9-13. Gustavo Naveira and Olga Besio: Seminar Review I-V
(5 tape set)
14. Petaca (with Eugenia): Tango
15. Petaca (with Eugenia): Milonga
16-17. Esther and Mingo Pugliese: Advanced Salon Tango I & II
(2 tape set)
18. Florencia Taccetti: Technique and Adornment for Followers
19. Tete and Silvia: Fundamentals of Salon Tango
20. Tete and Silvia: Advanced Salon Tango in Waltz Rhythm
Price for each Bridge to the tango video is $40 ($50 for PAL) plus s&h
from Bridge to the Tango, P.O. Box 560127 Medford, MA 02156, (888)
382-6467, website: <http://www.tangobridge.com/dtango7>.
Pricing for the Carlos and Alicia videos and an exact release date are
yet to be announced.
For a listing of the other 62 videos, with my reviews and ratings,
visit Planet Tango. The URL is
<http://www.hooked.net/~tangoman/revu-1.htm>.
--Steve de Tejas
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:23:55 -0600
From: Naomi Bennett <Naomiben @SWBELL.NET>
Subject: Prague and Budapest Tango?
I'm going to these two cities Sept 25-Oct2nd.
What is the current information for milongas in either city? The El Once
magazine shows for Budapest one milonga on the 1st Saturday of each month.
It shows a milonga at a restaurant "Alma Mater" from 9-11. It looked like
that is every night? I would appreciate more current information.
In Prague
There is only on listing of a person's name. Divadlo V. Dlouhe. Looks
like there is nothing in that city.
Anyone have better information for me? I would appreciate it.
Naomi Bennett
Austin, TX
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:49:07 +0800
From: Juan Rando <juan @STARWON.COM.AU>
Subject: Madonna's Teachers
On the subject of Madonna's Teachers, I have this question.
When I arrived back here in Australia, after spending a year and half
overseas,
just prior to me returning there had been a series of Workshops,
conducted by Rodolfo
Monteleone (excuse the spelling), the son of well known dancer Pedro
Monteleone
(I think). Now, there was all this rave in the papers about him
teaching Madonna t
odance, then it was modified to the fact that his father, Pedro was her
teacher.
Can anyone shed some light on this. I knew that most of it was a little
light on truth, but is there a vestige of truth somewhere in it?
Juan Rando
Perth, Western Australia.
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:38:02 EDT
From: Frank Sasson <FRSASSON @AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Sunday Milonga @ Hallandale
In a message dated 09/09/1999 12:11:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,=20
lilyader @hotmail.com writes:
TRADUCCION AL ESPANOL:
Queridos Tangueros:
Como ya lo deben saber, ha habido un cambio en el programa de los shows en e=
l=20
teatro J. Gleason.Como no van a presentar el show el Domingo por la noche,
CITA en Hallandale tendr=E1 una milonga especial con un show, presentando el=20
reparto del "Tango Review". No tendr=E1n la clase regular que comunmente=20
tienen, al contrario, la milonga comenzar=E1 a las 7 PM y el show se present=
ar=E1=20
a las 9PM. La entrada para todo ser=E1 de $15.00.El show ser=E1 acompa=F1ado =
por=20
los m=FAsicos de Tango Review, y se quedar=E1n para tocar el resto de la noc=
he.=20
El reparto del Tango Review se quedar=E1 y participaran en la milonga despue=
s=20
del show. Si tienen ustedes m=E1s preguntas, por favor contacten a CITA=20
directamente, ya que no tengo m=E1s informaci=F3n.
Me solicitaron que pasara esta informaci=F3n a la lista y a lacomunidad de=20
Tango. No tengo nig=FAn interes financiero en CITA y no estoy afiliada a ell=
os=20
de ninguna manera. Esto es simplemente una cortes=EDa, la cual hago en=20
beneficio de la comunidad tanguera en general. Adem=E1s =E9ste es un evento=20
especial y espero que satisfaga a la lista.
Gracias
Lily Ader.
P.S. Alguien quiere traducirlo ?
Full translation of text found below by Frank Sasson.
<< QUERIDO TANGUEROS,
As you may already know, there has been a slight change in the scheduled=20
weekend performance at J. Gleason Threatre. Because there will be no=20
performance on Sunday nite, CITA in Hallandale will host a special Milonga=20
featuring the cast of the "Tango Review". There will be no regularly=20
schedule class. The milonga is to begin at 7:00 p.m. and the show is=20
scheduled to start at around 9:00 p.m. The fee is $15. for everything. The=20
show will be accompanied on stage by the musicians of Tango Review. They ar=
e=20
scheduled to stay and play the remainder of the night. However, the first=20
part of the milonga will be with the regular DJ music. The cast is also=20
planning to stay and participate in the milonga after the show. If you have=20
any futher question please get in touch with CITA directly as I have no=20
further info.
I was asked to pass this information on to the list and the tango community=
.=20
I have no financial interest in CITA and am not affiliated with them in any=20
way . This is simply a courtesy which I do for the tango community at large=
.=20
Furthermore, this is a special event and I hope that satisfies the list.
Thanks,
Lily Ader
P.S. anyone care to translate?
>>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:00:38 -0700
From: Dennis Talbott <dagett @2XTREME.NET>
Subject: Milwaukee
Hello List,
I'm looking for any practica or lesson next week. Weds the 21st or thurs
the 22nd in Milwaukee, WI.
Dennis
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 00:15:36 -0700
From: Manuel Patino <white95r @HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: The CITA 2000 Spam
JC,
It's interesting to see how indignant you've become about
the C.I.T.A. *spam* you've received. I remember some months
ago after the first C.I.T.A. when you complained to the list
about how you had not heard about the "alledged" tango event
in Buenos Aires. Apparently somebody took your complaint
seriously and made sure you were properly notified this
time. I guess you just want to have it both ways and trash
the C.I.T.A. because you did not hear about it the first
time and because you did hear about it this time.
I would heartily recommend you save your tango spending
units this time and attend CITA with the rest of us. As I've
said before it is about the best tango event you can attend
from all standpoints. I'm sure after you experience Buenos
Aires, all the fabulous instruction, the incredible live
music at the nightly milongas and the shows, you will be
asking about the next CITA directly and your feelings wont
be hurt. I will be happy to help you with any questions
regarding my experience at the last CITA or Bs As.
Respectfully,
Manuel
Original Message -----
From: JC Dill <tango @VO.CNCHOST.COM>
Subject: The CITA 2000 Spam
> At 12:39 AM 9/14/99 -0700, Manuel Patino wrote:
> >Saludos tangueros y tangueras:
> >
> >I got a notice from COSMO TANGO www.cosmotango.com about
the
> >upcoming Congreso Internacional de Tango Argentino to be
snip
> I also got that message, as I suspect many other tango-l
posters.
>
> So, in case anyone else is thinking of this trick, let me
tell you:
>
> DON'T
>
> It is a violation of this list's rules to harvest email
addresses from this
> list for the purpose of sending the posters unsolicited
commercial
> email. That is called spamming. Just because you think
we are interested
> in your spam because we have posted to a mailing list
about tango doesn't
> mean we ARE interested in your spam.
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