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There are 5 messages totalling 244 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. tango in Boston?
2. AT World Championships (2)
3. CITA 2000
4. Storing tango steps on palm computing device
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:17:54 +0200
From: Natarajan Balasundara <rajan @EMC.COM>
Subject: Re: tango in Boston?
Hi Sandy,
They may want to look at URL is: http://www.havetodance.com/tango
which hassome event listings. Also http://www.bostontango.org for tango
society of boston, which has events in its own calander too..
rajan.
Sandy Smith wrote:
> Hi all!
> A couple from my tango class in Australia will be in Boston from Friday 17
> September till Sat. 2 October. Does anybody know of any tango events
> (classes/workshops/milongas) during that time?
> thanks
> sandy
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:23:54 +0200
From: Peter Niebert <Peter.Niebert @IMAG.FR>
Subject: Re: AT World Championships
Carlos Garces writes:
> Maybe the one issue you didn't
> mention, given that your email was more a summary of the event, but, that
> others constantly brought up was the fact that the organizers cut the
> Argentine Tango music off in the middle of a song as they do in ballroom
Ha. Victor and the others, you have my sympathy. I can feel the
physical pain you must have suffered every time this happened. I have
heard of DJs at Milongas having been severely injured after
interrupting the second piece in a row.
Do you realise the compromises you make against your own convictions
in order to participate here? This organisation considers dance as
something rather detached from music. Or would you call the noise
played at the other competitions - including Int. Tango - music? It is
dead repetition of poor rhythmic patterns.
More than an offence to the Tango dance, this kind of events is an
offence to the artists who created this rich dancing music we know as
Tango.
Don't get me wrong, I do not consider participation in such an event
as immoral, and I can even understand the motivation of the
professionals (I do not believe that they will NOT commercially
exploit the title. They were stupid if they did not!).
But here is a challange to you, who think that participating will get
the event on "the right track": In two or three years from now, we
will know that you have achieved something if the IDO recognizes the
*end* to be an integral part of any Tango and they will change the
rules for Argentine Tango in this respect and not turn off the music
in the middle of a piece.
Peter
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:39:29 +0100
From: white95r <white95r @HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: AT World Championships
Original Message -----
From: Peter Niebert <Peter.Niebert @IMAG.FR>
Subject: Re: AT World Championships
> Do you realize the compromises you make against your own convictions
> in order to participate here?
In defense of Victor I must say that I cannot see where he has made any
compromises about his convictions. It seems to me that all he did was attend
the AT Dance Championship and report on it. I've know Victor for some years
now and I've never heard him state his convictions against attending *any*
tango event.
>This organisation considers dance as
> something rather detached from music. Or would you call the noise
> played at the other competitions - including Int. Tango - music? It is
> dead repetition of poor rhythmic patterns.
On the contrary, the ballroom organizations go to great lengths to create
the hideous music they use precisely because they consider it so important.
Mind you, I personally detest most of the music played for strictly ballroom
dancing. Of course, this is just my opinion. I will allow them to use
whatever horrible music they like. I don't have to like it myself but it is
music and it is very rhythmically precise (although that is not important to
me).
> More than an offence to the Tango dance, this kind of events is an
> offence to the artists who created this rich dancing music we know as
> Tango.
It is not an offense, at least not on purpose, it is just another
enterprise. These people have every right to stage whatever events they
want. They probably think that they are elevating the tango to a more
prominent place. I think it is useless at least for me to take something
like this like a personal affront.
> But here is a challange to you, who think that participating will get
> the event on "the right track": In two or three years from now, we
> will know that you have achieved something if the IDO recognizes the
> *end* to be an integral part of any Tango and they will change the
> rules for Argentine Tango in this respect and not turn off the music
> in the middle of a piece.
If this is the litmus test for achieving "the right track", we might as
well give up right now. I think it will be extremely unlikely for the *end*
of a tango to be considered any more an integral part of anything than the
end of anything else. The people who organize these contests do not seem to
recognize the *end* of any musical piece to be of any importance whatsoever.
I think it would be wrong to expect them to make an exception for the tango.
It seems to me that it is rather pointless to take out one's frustrations
about the Ballroom Dance institution on Victor or any others who went to see
the event or even participated in it. I do not like a lot of aspects of the
ballroom dance scene but I still think that showcasing AT and some of it's
finer performers can be a good thing. As I said before, I doubt that one
single person who loves tango as it is will suddenly change and adopt any
Ballroom instituted rules, regulations or even suggestions about AT. OTOH,
some ballroom aficionados might just become interested in AT and join our
(very diverse) ways of dancing, appreciating and generally enjoying the
Argentine Tango.
Ganchazos,
Manuel
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:39:29 -0700
From: Manuel Patino <white95r @HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: CITA 2000
Saludos tangueros y tangueras:
I got a notice from COSMO TANGO www.cosmotango.com about the
upcoming Congreso Internacional de Tango Argentino to be
held in Bs As next year. I copied a portion of the message
for your information:
>Mark your calendars for
>the week of: March 12 - March 19, 2000.
>One week of the best Tango instruction from world-renowned
teachers,
>including:
>GUSTAVO NAVEIRA
>FABIAN SALAS
>OSVALDO ZOTTO
>LORENA ERMOCIDA
>CHICHO
>CECILIA GONZALEZ
>GISELLE ANNE
>FACUNDO & KELY
>RODOLFO & MARIA CIERI
>NITO & ELBA
>ESTHER & MINGO PUGLIESE
>JULIO BALMACEDA & CORINA
>EL INDIO & MARIANA
>EDUARDO CAPPUSSI & MARIANA
>NORBERTO "EL PULPO" ESBREZ
>LUCIA MAZER
>Invitations to teach at this event are also being extended
to several other
>world-class Argentine maestros.
Last year's CITA was the outstanding Tango event of the
year. There is no comparison with any other tango week
anywhere else. Buenos Aires is the best place for tango and
CITA is the best opportunity to enjoy it. I strongly
recommend it to anyone who loves tango. The shows and the
milongas with the live music alone are worth the price of
admission. The music is absolutely out of this world.
I'm posting this strictly on my own. I have absolutely no
financial interest in this event and nobody asked me to post
it to the list. It just would be a shame for any tango lover
to miss this event because he or she did not know about it.
I'll be there next year and I hope to see many of you there.
If you wish to register as part of a group you are welcome
to be part of my group (no, I do not get *any* discount or
commission for your participation) but I will be happy to be
of help.
Abrazos tangueros,
Manuel
www.tango-rio.com
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:04:04 -0600
From: Paul Akmajian <pakmajian @SALUD.UNM.EDU>
Subject: Storing tango steps on palm computing device
Dear List,
Has anyone used a palm computing device (like a PalmPilot) to store tango =
figures or to take notes on them during a workshop or class?
Just curious. have one and have thought I'd like to give it a try. Maybe =
someone has come up with an elegant system of notation?
Paul Akmajian
Phone: 505/272-8717
Fax: 505/272-8060
Paul Akmajian
Phone: 505/272-8717
Fax: 505/272-8060
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