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There are 6 messages totalling 189 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. FW: PIROPO OF THE DAY AND A JOKE
2. Piropos and Tangos
3. Mas Piropos
4. THE MAGIC POWER OF FLIRTING - A true story - Not short, not very long
either.
5. Rumors and Answers
6. Tango Books
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:48:54 -0400
From: SERGIO <SERGIO @NCINTER.NET>
Subject: FW: PIROPO OF THE DAY AND A JOKE
Original Message-----
From: SERGIO [mailto:SERGIO @NCINTER.NET]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 12:46 PM
To: TANGO LIST SERVER; TANGO EGROUPS; REINALDO ZARLENGA; PABLO BAL=C1N;
MARYJO PHILLIPS; MARYJANE KIDD; MADDALENA ROAE; GRACIELA BARBERIS;
CARMEN GARC=CDA; ANTHONY SALA; ANDREA VALERIA SUPPA
Subject: PIROPO OF THE DAY AND A JOKE
Se abrio el cielo y bajaron los angeles?
Heavens opened and the angels came down?
Sometimes the piropo reaches the destinatary indirectly, such as when you
address the lady that comes walking with her beautiful daughter to say:
Me gustaria que Ud. fuera mi suegra!
I wish you were my mother in law!
Now the joke; I dedicated the piropos to all the BEAUTIFUL ladies in our
Tango List.
I congratulate the ones that said THANK YOU!, because they know they are
BEAUTIFUL. I am sorry for the ones that said nothing because they might
think they are not.
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:37:42 -0500
From: Tom Ronquillo <chitiger @MAIL.DAVE-WORLD.NET>
Subject: Piropos and Tangos
In its best form, a piropo subtly communicates that we view someone as
attractive. At its worst, it can be a vulgar, disrespectful verbal
assault.
I suggest that some of the things that make piropos enjoyable are
similar to what makes a good tango. Namely, artistry, subtlety,
respectfulness, fantasy and confidence. Conversely, the elements that
make piropos and tangos unpleasant are vulgarities, forcing, disrespect,
relentlessness and false bravado. Anyone care to add more to either
list?
At the heart of the piropo discussion might be the essence of why people
dance tango. Piropos and tangos can be fun. Both invite intimacy. Both
allow fantasy. Both require skill to to well. Both are arenas where age
is not a limiting factor. (Recall self described "50 + woman" Nancy
Ingle's now famous walk that caused a Spanish heart to flutter. BTW, the
Cuban version of what Nancy heard is: "If you cook the way you walk, I'd
like to lick the pot." A bit more forward, those Cubanos!)
A sweet piropo or exquisite tango can be one of life's special treats.
Are piropos a dying art form from an earlier era? Perhaps. But, there
are a few practitioners around who can still move their tongues as
skillfully as their feet. And judging from some of the reponses in this
thread, there are even a few women left who enjoy it.
Tom (El Tigre) Ronquillo
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 20:26:10 -0500
From: dmcree <dmcree @BHIP.INFI.NET>
Subject: Mas Piropos
Hello list members,
I've been enjoying the discussion of piropos, particularly Tom's
observations about the elements that make a good piropo or a good tango.
For those who may be interested there is a web site (of course!) dedicated
to "Piropos de amor y amistad." There are some 300 piropos on this site and
visitors (men and women) are invited to submit new ones they've heard or
used. Some of them are quite sappy sounding (to someone of my cultural
upbringing) , but many are rather clever. The site is in Spanish (no English
translations).
The URL is http://www.ilusion.com/piropos/
Even if you only have an intermediate reading ability in Spanish you can
enjoy trying to figure some of them out if you like a challenge!
David McRee, Bradenton, Florida, USA
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 23:35:49 -0400
From: SERGIO <SERGIO @NCINTER.NET>
Subject: THE MAGIC POWER OF FLIRTING - A true story - Not short,
not very long either.
During the act of flirting there is some kind of spiritual communication
between the people involved in the event; some sort of spiritual force
changing places from one to the other person and vice versa.
This impression was greatly reinforced by something that happened in
Columbus, Ohio, a few years ago.
We were at a week lasting tango workshop. At noon my friend Carlos, (a tango
instructor and stage dancer), and I, went for lunch to a nearby restaurant.
While waiting to be seated, a waitress; a pretty oriental girl went by and
Carlos curved his lips to send her a kiss. After a while, the restaurant was
fairly crowded, the same girl reappeared and took us to a table.
We had a great lunch and exceptional service; the girl asked for our
occupation and we told her we were Tango Dancers.
When we tried to pay for the meal, she stated that it was her invitation.
As you can imagine we were very surprised!!??
That night she came to the milonga; I danced, or tried to dance a couple of
tangos with her and finally the cloud of mystery started to lift.
She had met and American soldier in Korea and got married to him. Six month
later here in the USA, the relationship became very unhappy. Finally he had
left about two weeks before our encounter. She was alone, far from family
and friends; became very depressed and one week prior to our fateful
meeting, she had taken an overdose of sedatives. After leaving the hospital
she had remained very depressed an determined to kill herself, till - as she
described - " I saw that man, his posture, gestures, penetrating eyes, he
transferred something, some powerful will, something that made me want to
continue living. I know by now that he has a partner and girl friend, but
the strength that emanated from him made me wish to continue living." We
never saw her again, but I trust that she continues living, and in part, at
the very least due to the MAGIC POWER OF FLIRTING.
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:43:19 EDT
From: Randy Pittman <MailAlive @AOL.COM>
Subject: Rumors and Answers
Hola Milongueros and Tangueras:
Several of you have passed along rumors about the new Tango Argentino Show
coming to New York.
Hi, this is Lydia Henson, President USTC-Tango Fantasy 2000.
Yes, I am here to inform you this is no longer rumors, I personally spoke
with Juan Carlos Copes a few minutes ago and heard it from the "horse's
mouth." Juan Carlos told me in our conversation that rehearsals are starting
soon and the first show will have its debut opening in "La Opera" theater in
Buenos Aires the week of October 26, 27, 28, 29, & 30. They will go on to
New York in November 1st. and open November 7 or 9 at the Palace Theater for
10 weeks.
Maria Nieves will be dancing with Juan Carlos Copes and also Johana Copes
will be dancing with him. All dancing couples have not been finalized. More
information to come as I get it myself personally.
With the fun and comical ways the rumors got started, enjoy your fun, rumor
and games but these are the facts straight form Mr. Juan Carlos Copes as of
today.
Share a Tango with a friend.
Lydia
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:28:22 -0400
From: Esteban Doneon <edoneon @MAIL.COM>
Subject: Tango Books
Does any one knows about any book to learn Argentine Tango.
But realy argentine tango not the American version of it
Esteban
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