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There are 4 messages totalling 172 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Inquiry
2. practice, practice, practice
3. Older, plain looking, excellent milongueras
4. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hern=E1n_Obispo_y_Natalia_Mazer_in_Minneapoolis?=
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 06:50:39 -0700
From: Colette Jacquet <colliedo @YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Inquiry
I recently heard "Tango for Evora" (the somewhat tepid
song of Loreena
McKennitt...) sung in Greek or Turkish, by a female
singer. I know it's
not a pure tango piece but the circumstances made it
quite pleasant.
The ones who attended the tango night at "Bayamo" in
New York, where
the song was played, will appreciate. If anyone out
there has some info
on this female vocalist, please kindly let me know.
Jean-Pierre Jacquet
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:52:54 -0400
From: Christina Burtis <Cburtis @IFC.ORG>
Subject: practice, practice, practice
What a great thing the Tango-L List is! Makes the transition between all those
late night milongas and being at work bright & early the next day much more
bearable. I have a few questions.
I. STYLES. What are the various styles of tango? Can anyone add to or
correct my list? How can you recognize the older styles and are they still
danced/taught? It would be great if there existed footage of the variety
somewhere.
salon: a style developed in the 40's
milongero: social style, danced today in the B.A. dance halls ("A" frame,
close-embrace)
fantasia/stage: exhibition style, initially developed by J.C. Copes in the
late 50's
orillero: old style of tango from the outskirts of B.A. (date?)
canyengue: a very old style of tango, pampas influence? (date?)
habanera: and old style that emerged by the seaports (date?), heavy Cuban
influence
rioplatense: reference to the Uruguayan and Argentine sides of the river,
(style?)
baila: is this a style?
II. HEIGHT. I am tall (5'11) with very long legs and have pretty much come to
terms with it psychologically in my dancing. However, dealing with my height
from a technical aspect has been a challenge esp. if my partner is shorter than
myself. When I aim for a better tango form ("A" frame for example) in a walk, I
compromise the lead. Though not overly not overly pronounced yet not
comfortable either, its difficult to reach back with a straight leg and my body
often looks a little bent in the middle. I'm finding this difficult to correct
and a precise tango form hard to master when I'm simultaneously trying to follow
well. I tend to attribute this technical difficulty to my height, but could it
be something else? Do I need a different partner(s), different teacher(s), more
practice (I've been happily for 1 year), practicing alone, or cross training
with other dances? Is it a matter of keeping the ball of the foot of my
reaching leg on the floor, the relative bend of the knee of my standing leg,
pushing off of my standing leg, or stretching from the hip? Though not always
correct form, I've noticed there is more power and response in a slightly bent
leg. Any views or explanations of the mechanics?
III. BALANCE. Balance is also a challenge. Let's talk physics- I have more to
control vertically. It can sometimes take a split second longer for me to "be
there" in my response to the lead. Sometimes I feel that my shorter partners do
not realize that my center of gravity is different than dancers who are 5'2, and
they are working with something a little lower. (I am talking about a center of
balance here.) This "skyscraper-i-tus" is more evident when they attempt cheap
fantasia moves. Any views or suggestions?
IV. SPANISH. Anyone have a favorite system or tapes for learning Spanish
quickly on your own? Specifically for Argentine/B.A.? How much of a dialect,
if any, is spoken? Is Lunfardo one of them?
however you tango, wherever you tango,
tango well.
G.H.
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 16:20:54 -0600
From: Naomi Bennett <Naomiben @SWBELL.NET>
Subject: Older, plain looking, excellent milongueras
Various people implied that the direct, overt actions by two men in Buenos
Aires that danced dirtyTango offended me. That isn't true. Their actions
were a surprise mixed with laughter and embrassment but I wasn't offended.
It could be considered a un-asked for compliment. The post was more a
statement of fact of what did happened and how does one handle it?
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 00:37:52 -0500
From: Frank Williams <frank @INDY.BSBE.UMN.EDU>
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Greetings friends,
It was a pleasure to read the following from a respected correspondent, K=
eith
Elshaw:
> "I too have
> new heroes now, like Osvaldo and Miguel Angel Zotto, and my current
> teacher, Hern=E1n - a young man you'll be hearing about in the future.
Hern=E1n and his partner, Natalia Mazer are from Bs.As. and are currently=
teaching in Canada:
http://academietangoargentin.com/hernanet.htm
The Tango Society of Minnesota is pleased to announce that Hern=E1n y Nat=
alia
will be teaching in Minneapolis from July 13th to the 19th. As soon as t=
ravel
arrangements are finalized, we will be scheduling tango and milonga works=
hops,
plus private instruction. Those of you in or near our area are warmly in=
vited
to participate. If you reply to me in private, I will gladly forward to =
you
all of the details concerning this visit.
Tango Society of Minnesota is a not-for-profit community service corporta=
tion.
Upcoming TSOM milongas: June 12th, July 10th, July 17th (outdoors!). Mo=
re
details concerning "everything tango in the Twin Cities" are available on=
our
web site: http://indy.bsbe.umn.edu/tango
Best wishes and warm tangos to all!
Frank in Minneapolis
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frank @indy.bsbe.umn.edu Department of Neuroscience
frank @biosci.cbs.umn.edu 4-144 Jackson Hall
(612) 625-6441 (office) 321 Church Street SE.
(612) 624-4436 (lab) Minneapolis, MN 55455
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