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There are 11 messages totalling 385 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. FW: Daniel Lapadula's visit to the San Francisco Bay area
2. DIEGO ALVARO IN SF - California, USA, FOR 2 WEEKS
3. Changing Partners
4. Leaning Post
5. Rotating Partners
6. Tango USTC ( Miami Beach)
7. MILONGA DE JEANNE - MAY 8 (SAT.) LAFAYETTE
8. Recent AT Convention in BsAs?
9. Tango in Italy
10. Rotating Partners :-) or :-( ?
11. Tango teachers Gladys Fernandez and Ricardo Gallo?
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 11:54:36 -0400
From: "Hogan, Ray (G.R.)" <rhogan1 @FORD.COM>
Subject: FW: Daniel Lapadula's visit to the San Francisco Bay area
Please see the attached from Stella Ling.
Ray Hogan
RHOGAN1 rhogan1 @ford.com
4R14 PLHQB 313/59-44176
Original Message-----
From: smling [mailto:smling @email.msn.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 1993 10:09 AM
To: Ray Hogan
Subject: Fw: Daniel Lapadula's visit to the San Francisco Bay area
Ray,
Can you try to put this on Tango-l for me. So far I have not succeeded, but
I don't know why.
thanks
stella
Original Message-----
From: smling <smling @email.msn.com>
To: TANGO-L @MITVMA.MIT.EDU <TANGO-L @MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Sunday, May 02, 1993 9:49 AM
Subject: Daniel Lapadula's visit to the San Francisco Bay area
>Hello list,
>I have been trying for awhile to get this sent but no luck. Let me try
once
>more.
>Daniel Lapadula, famed Argentinian tango star will once again be visiting
>the Bay area. He and his beautiful partner Laura Brondo have just danced
>with the Miami Philharmonic with great success.
>He has danced with Tango Revue and Libertad La Marque. He will be giving
>workshops and private classes on both sides of the bay for the next two
>weeks May 1-17. Schedules can be had at Broadway Studios, Verdi, the
>Danceasy or the Beat. Or contact E. Sirois 415-636 1403 or S. Ling
>510-655-3585 or email smling @msn.com.
>
>I have nothing to gain from this information. Just want to let you all
>know.
>
>
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 13:53:16 EDT
From: Jeanne Hill <GeneJeanne @AOL.COM>
Subject: DIEGO ALVARO IN SF - California, USA, FOR 2 WEEKS
Greetings Tango-L,
Diego Alvaro is from Buenos Aires where he and his wife, Zoraida Fontclara,
have been teaching a successful Tango class every Tuesday and Thursday at
midday! Yes, midday and they also hold a Milonga every Friday afternoon
where in March they had 430 persons in attendance! Diego will be in San
Francisco from May 17 through June 1 or 2.
Diego began dancing Tango in 1988 and it was then that he met his wife,
Zoraida, a well-known tango teacher with a solid base in classical and modern
dance. Zoraida explains, "The basic foundation is the 'walk.' As you grow
and begin to understand this language you begin to find your own personality
and style of touching the floor, that is, you learn to caress the floor with
your own style. We continue by teaching the ochos and turns, which are
really nothing other than walking at an angle. When you understand that the
logic of the tango is really just a walk, everything becomes much more fluid
and natural."
Diego Alvaro will teach at the Lafayette Dance Center, 3369 Mt. Diablo Blvd.,
Lafayette, CA on Wednesday and Friday from 8 to 10 PM, on May 19, 21, 26 and
29.
For more information, call Jeanne Hill at (925) 283-0191.
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 12:58:45 EDT
From: Shirley B <CWPic @AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Changing Partners
I recently had a conversation with a local producer of tango workshops
regarding this problem i.e. dancers of inequal abilities paired throughout a
class. I mentioned my recent approach which is to attend a class with a
partner and not rotate - he agreed that this was probably the best way to
ensure getting full value out of the class.
Shirley Bossier
Seattle
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:35:39 -0400
From: Matej Oresic <matej.oresic @CORNELL.EDU>
Subject: Re: Leaning Post
What Kate expressed is a very common way of leading when the man helps the
lady in pivots (ochos, and in particular turns) and in controling the weight
changes, by holding her slightly up. I really mean slightly, because this
technique doesn't require any special physical strength, but it does require a
good embrace, as well as a well grounded lady... This also helps men to keep
the posture (it's a must in fast turns) and makes the lead clearer
(particularly useful in fast milonga syncopations). Obviously, this technique
is harder to apply in a very loose open frame.
Best,
Matej
http://lancelot.bio.cornell.edu/matej/tango/
Tom Stermitz wrote:
> > From: Kate Withey Tuesday, April 27, 1999 5:35 PM
> >
> >> ... weight does NOT have to be downward. Daniel Trenner
> >> does an exercise in which both partners focus on the weight you give
> >> your partner being UPWARD.
> >
> >Forgive me Kate, but I have to ask this:
> >
> >
> >Can you fly? ;-)
> >
> >
> >Tangringo
>
> You jest perhaps?
>
> What Kate expressed is very, very effective & beneficial. This one, simple
> little mental rearrangement makes a tremendous improvement. Language may
> not always be precise, but casting your weight upward captures the image
> nicely. (This is not suggesting to be on your toes).
>
> Tom Stermitz
> 2612 Clermont St
> Denver, CO 80207
> Chautauqua Publishing / Ragtime Interiors
> "On-Line Arts & Crafts Movement Resource Directory."
> (303) 388 - 2560
> stermitz @ragtime.org
> http://www.ragtime.org/ragtime/
> http://www.tango.org/dance/
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 19:31:37 +0000
From: Carol Shepherd <shepherd @ARBORLAW.COM>
Subject: Re: Rotating Partners
Colin Brace wrote:
>
> However, I also have had less than glorious experiences: at the
> workshop of one well-known teacher there, I was assigned to a English
> woman, a head shorter than me, six or seven months pregnant and wearing
> birkenstock sandles,
Given that people in general are going to be a different height and
weight, as a rule each dancer will generally be needing to adjust to a
shorter or taller partner. The adjustment is usually mostly within the
skill of the leader and easily made, unless that leader does not
generally dance with a variety of partners. If both dancers have some
experience (which seems not to have been the case for you here), a good
lead-follow partnership should be possible regardless of weight and
height. I agree it is more difficult to keep my own balance correctly
with a much shorter lead (a head shorter than me), than it is with a
lead of my height or greater. I always assumed that shorter follows
were easier to manage than taller follows, for the men.
> who had never taken a tango class before, and
> wandered in off the street, more or less. Unfortunately the teacher
> didn't rotate us for the rest of the class, so I hardly got a chance to
> practice the rather complex figure he had taught.
This is the real problem, having to spend an entire class with a partner
of greatly different ability from your own, or no partner at all (in the
case of gender imbalance). I find that instructors who are the most
professional will, if directly approached, always respect and honor a
discreet reminder to please keep rotating the partners in a class,
because they understand why you are needing to ask.
--
Carol Ruth Shepherd
Arborlaw Associates PLLC
Ann Arbor, Michigan USA
+1 734 668 4646 tel +1 734 663 9361 fax
business, technology, entertainment and new media law
year2000 @arborlaw.com
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 23:47:53 EDT
From: Mirror3333 @AOL.COM
Subject: Tango USTC ( Miami Beach)
Dear Tangueros
Dont forget the USTC taking place on beautiful Miami Beach at the Radisson
Deeauville. Randy and Lydia just informed me the rates are still the best
price $79.00 for double occupancy. It will all take place May 23 thru May 29
for any info call 305 274-2705.
There will be an outstanding gathering of Masters including the legend
Juan Carlos Copes. I'm really looking forward to my tango fantasy on Miami
Beach.
I have no financial interest just want to make it the best experience sharing
it with others. Looking forward to meeting all of you there.
Helena
" You must be the change you wish to see in the world"
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:53:36 +0000
From: Carol Shepherd <shepherd @ARBORLAW.COM>
Subject: Re: MILONGA DE JEANNE - MAY 8 (SAT.) LAFAYETTE
Which Lafayette is this? Indiana or California? --It would be helpful
if listmembers would use the state as well as the city (unless it's
something obvious like New York or Buenos Aires) when they are posting...thanks!
CRS
Jeanne Hill wrote:
>
> Greetings Friends,
>
> My next Milonga is this Saturday. Marcelo Varela and Analia Vega from Buenos
> Aires will teach the class from 8:30 to 9:30 PM and later in the evening they
> will perform their exciting interpretation of the milonga.
>
> Don't miss this last opportunity to see this young, delightful couple dance.
> Marcelo and Analia will be back in the Bay area, but for this time they
> return to Argentina on May 10.
>
> Join us at the Lafayette Veteran's Hall, 3491 Mt. Diablo Blvd., Lafayette,
> corner of First Street and Mt. Diablo Blvd. For more information call Jeanne
> (925) 283-0191.
>
> Chao,
>
> Jeanne
--
Carol Ruth Shepherd
Arborlaw Associates PLLC
Ann Arbor, Michigan USA
+1 734 668 4646 tel +1 734 663 9361 fax
business, technology, entertainment and new media law
year2000 @arborlaw.com
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:08:14 -0500
From: "Huddleston, Frank" <huddleston @TIMPO.OSD.MIL>
Subject: Re: Recent AT Convention in BsAs?
I checked out the Web site for this event (C.I.T.A). I think I
looked everywhere, but couldn't see a price for the actual event itself.
Can someone tell me what it was?
Thanks,
Frank Huddleston
huddleston @timpo.osd.mil
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 17:37:54 -0500
From: "Buckbee, Edward" <BUCKBEEE @CHICAGOSYMPHONY.ORG>
Subject: Tango in Italy
We will be traveling to Florence and Siena at the beginning of June. Any
tango in those parts?
Edward J. Buckbee, Director of Planned Giving, Chicago Symphony Orchestra
buckbeee @chicagosymphony.org
312-294-3111 or 312-294-3108 fax
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:47:47 +0000
From: scott gamble <sgamble @PWAY.COM>
Subject: Re: Rotating Partners :-) or :-( ?
One way the teachers can get around that problem is by desgnating 'first
partners', and every fourth or fifth rotation, have the students return to
'first partners'. This way the couples can practice during class as well as with
others. I have found the 'first partner' rotation idea to work really well.
Scott
Stephen P Brown wrote:
> JC wrote:
>
> >It is generally accepted that rotating partners in a class is the only way
> >to ensure that you are BOTH correctly learning the lead and follow of a
> >move. Otherwise it is possible (and likely) that you will develop
> >compensating mistakes, and can only do the move with each other and not
> >with other partners.
>
> >I would NOT attend a class, workshop, or intensive weekend or week where it
> >was commonplace for instructors to not rotate their students.
>
> Rotating partners solves some problems, but it creates many others.
>
> A few years ago, Susan and I attended an advanced tango class taught by a
> well-known instructor who was a visitor to the area where the class was
> being taught. (The name of the instructor and the location are
> unimportant.)
>
> Before we attended the class, Susan and I debated with ourselves about
> whether we would be considered advanced. We decided to go to the class,
> thinking we could always just dance with each other and not inflict
> ourselves on others if we were not good enough to be there.
>
> What a laugh!
>
> Few who attended the class were even qualified to be called intermediate
> dancers except in their own minds. Susan and I did not discover this,
> however, until the instructor called for a rotation. For most of the class
> we both had partners who could barely execute the most basic steps. We
> learned very little tango.
>
> I find it significant that for a recent week-long intensive and advanced
> course that Gustavo Naveira and Olga Besio offered through Daniel Trenner's
> Bridge to the Tango, all participants were required to attend with a partner
> with whom they were prepared to spend 80 percent of their class time
> dancing.
>
> --Steve de Tejas
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 10:32:03 +0200
From: Armin Kleinboehl <kleinb @AXP602.GSI.DE>
Subject: Tango teachers Gladys Fernandez and Ricardo Gallo?
Hi folks,
does anybody of you know the Italian Tango teachers Gladys Fernandez
and Ricardo Gallo? I've just recieved an inquiry from a friend of mine and
I've never heard of them. Any comments are appreciated.
Thanks,
Armin
Original Message-----
Have you heard about this Italian Tango teachers
Miss Gladys Fernandez and Mr Ricardo Gallo?
They are visiting Hong Kong and Manila next month
and they have asked me to arrange for them to
come to conduct a workshop in Singapore. I just
want to know if they are famous in Europe.
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