Tango-L mailing list archive: Digest 24 Jun 1999 to 25 Jun 1999

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Digest from 24 Jun 1999 to 25 Jun 1999

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There are 28 messages totalling 1013 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Chicho and Cecilia on the West Coast, L.A. July 30-Aug 2 2. music for portland's crystal tango ball 3. Dancing to cortinas - correction 4. Radio Tango (3) 5. Plea for DJ sensitivity (cortinas & tandas) (2) 6. Change of address 7. Re[2]: Dancing to cortinas 8. Two tango events this Friday in the San Francisco area (2) 9. Crowded Salons 10. June 26/27, October 29-31 in Ithaca/NY 11. About 'musical separators' 12. tea and tango? 13. Thank you for your help / tango in SF 14. the perfect follow 15. Tango in Berlin? 16. Tango in Hawaii 17. apartment in Argentina 18. 1999 World Tour of Tomas Howlin & Silvana Grill 19. Tango Magic 20. Where to Tango in LA??? 21. Tango GRAZioso Tango Festival '99 22. About the New Tango, Fabian, Gustavo and Co. 23. Orlando Paiva in LA & New Milonga in Town!!! "La Milonga del Miercoles" 24. Spanish teacher in BsAs

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:18:58 GMT From: Alexis White <alexisltc @HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: Chicho and Cecilia on the West Coast, L.A. July 30-Aug 2 Additional information on Chicho and Cecilia's appearance on the West Coast can be found on our website at: http://frontpage.lightspeed.net/ozark/tango/encuentro.htm Included are price breakdown, discount packages, registration deadline, registration form and instructions. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 02:56:17 -0700 From: William Alsup <walsup @EUROPA.COM> Subject: music for portland's crystal tango ball The Portland (Oregon) tango community is presently doing a search for a world-class tango ensemble to play for the upcoming 3rd Annual Crystal Tango Ball on the 24th of October (the main event of a four-day series of workshops and milongas). Last year, the New York Tango Trio played, and proved to be one of the *key* elements in making the event an overwhelming success. While there are concerns about the costs involved in bringing a band from a faraway place, it is also very important to us that we have a *great* musical & danceable ensemble playing at this event. We have not heard back from Pablo Aslan of the NY Tango Trio at this time, and are therefore uncertain of their availability. Any appropriate ideas or leads may be directed to Clay Nelson (claybird @teleport.com), Robert Hauk (robhauk @teleport.com), and/or me (walsup @europa.com)." Thank you, Bill Alsup __________ Portland Area Tango: http://www.europa.com/~walsup/tango Clay's Dance Studio: http://www.teleport.com/~claybird

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:20:36 +0200 From: "Gabriella C. Marino" <gcmarino @IOL.IT> Subject: Dancing to cortinas - correction After reading my message (see below), a friend of mine from Bologna pointed out that Bologna was probably the first place in Italy to introduce tandas and cortinas, about 6 years ago, only they don't do it all the time, so I hope my friends in Bologna will accept my apologies, it was the first time *I'd* heard the system used there. >I noticed the dj in Bologna the other night was playing tandas for the >first time I'd also like to say that I didn't intend to offend Bologna milongueros/as since it is a well-known fact that the level of dancing there is very high, due to the teachers' expertise and the very large number of excellent workshops organised in the area. I wish I lived closer to be able to dance there every night! Happy tangos! Gabriella Parma, Italy

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:00:41 -0400 From: Nitin Kibe <NKibe @IFC.ORG> Subject: Radio Tango Greetings, List. Isn't Radio Tango a truly brilliant idea? To increase its pleasure and usefulness, I would appreciate answers (to the list please) to these questions. 1. How can one feed the signal into a regular stereo system, thus overcoming the limitations of the mini speakers attached to a PC? 2. How can one record the signal to play back later? Regards to all. Nitin Kibe

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:15:21 -0400 From: Robinne Gray <rlg2 @CORNELL.EDU> Subject: Plea for DJ sensitivity (cortinas & tandas) Gabriella wrote: >The idea of tandas I love, because they enable you to get used to and >confortable with a particular orchestra/style While attending my first swing dance in a long while I realized how much I had adapted to the culture of tango--I found it totally odd to dance only one song with each partner. I like the idea of musical cortinas rather than silence, but I would like to make a general plea for DJs to be aware of the mood they've just worked to create and to not dash it to pieces by playing a jarring snippet of music at the end. There's nothing worse than finishing a transcendent set with your partner, holding each other as the last note fades and enjoying that small "afterglow," and suddenly being jolted out of that state by harsh, discordant *noise*. The best cortinas provide enough contrast to clearly signal the end of the tanda, yet not so much incongruity that they cruelly shatter the sweetness that we all seek during an evening of tango. Think "transition" or "segue," not DESIST. Not all tandas require the same sensitivity. A rhythmic set, for example candombe, could be followed by a more playful cortina of the James Brown variety, but after Pugliese or dreamy valses, please go easy! In my opinion, salsa and swing cortinas are just a tease. So much of that music is good in its own right; if you're gonna play it, then go ahead and play the whole song. Those genres were created as dance music as surely as tango was, so respect the efforts of the composers and musicians who have given it to us. The best consistent use of appropriate transitional music I can think of is found daily on National Public Radio. Various news stories, from war reportage to comic editorials, are followed by artful selections of music that give one time to digest what one has just heard. I have heard there is one particular guy whose job it is to select NPR's "cortinas," and if so he's a magician. --Robinne Ithaca, NY

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:37:53 +0100 From: Manuel Patino <manuelp @MINDSPRING.COM> Subject: Re: Radio Tango Hi Nitin, The computers' audio output signal can be fed to an audio amplifier or receiver. This will make the computer very much like any other input device to the audio receiver, like a turntable, CD player, etc. Then you can use a tape deck or mini disk recorder right off the receiver. This will accomplish both of your goals. There are many fairly good, low cost, small devices that will serve you very well. Ask me privately if you want specific recommendations. Regards, Manuel

For info on upcoming tango events in Atlanta, see our website: http://www.tango-rio.com/Tangol.htm http://www.tango-rio.com/workshops.htm

Original Message ----- From: Nitin Kibe <NKibe @IFC.ORG> Subject: Radio Tango > Greetings, List. > 1. How can one feed the signal into a regular stereo system, thus overcoming > the limitations of the mini speakers attached to a PC? > > 2. How can one record the signal to play back later? > > Regards to all. > > Nitin Kibe

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:43:04 +0100 From: Manuel Patino <manuelp @MINDSPRING.COM> Subject: Re: Plea for DJ sensitivity (cortinas & tandas) Hi Robinne, I could not agree with you more. Thank you for expressing my feelings so clearly. Manuel

Original Message ----- From: Robinne Gray <rlg2 @CORNELL.EDU> Subject: Plea for DJ sensitivity (cortinas & tandas) > In my opinion, salsa and swing cortinas are just a tease. So much of > that music is good in its own right; if you're gonna play it, then go ahead > and play the whole song. Those genres were created as dance music as > surely as tango was, so respect the efforts of the composers and musicians > who have given it to us. >

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:43:10 EDT From: Marge Welling <Mjwelling @AOL.COM> Subject: Change of address I have a new email address. Please discontinue sending list postings to the old address (the aol address) and begin sending to the following: marge @thesailinglife.com Thank you! Marge Welling

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:43:10 -0700 From: Michael Brooks <mbrooks @WIZARDS.COM> Subject: Re: Re[2]: Dancing to cortinas At 10:36 AM -0400 6/24/99, Rodolfo Windhausen wrote: >Michael: >When I was growing up in Argentina -- and I am not going to tell you >during which geological era was that -- cortinas were used at >popular dance halls and sites, i.e. at soccer clubs where tango was >predominant but not exclusive as dancing music. >It was probably a consequence of the strong influence of radio and >also, because most announcers at those dances -- yes, they had >very loud announcers -- were popular radio "locutores." >So, at least in tango, cortinas were not invented in Texas, Bologna >or anywhere else in the world... They are a longstanding Argentine >tradition. Thank you for your reply. You brought up a a point I was subtly trying to make--that cortinas and tandas are a tradition. I think when you borrow and enjoy a dance form from another country you have an obligation to learn about the history, the traditions, the evolution. Perhaps only then can you intelligently and conscientiously deviate from them. Ms. Michael Seattle, Washington

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:53:43 -0800 From: Steve Hoffman <DrSteveH @IBM.NET> Subject: Two tango events this Friday in the San Francisco area Ladies and Gentlemen of the Bay Area Tango Scene: There are two relatively new tango tango events on the 4th Friday of each month in the San Francisco Bay Area. Neither has been advertised widely enough; both are excellent, and quite distinct in style: The first is Nora Dinzelbacher's Milonga which takes place for the third month now (I believe) in downtown Redwood City. (Everybody knows Nora and her great milongas, so I don't need to say any more here.) It is located in the historic part of downtown Redwood City, in the old Alhambra Theater which has been converted into a Ballroom on the 2nd floor. There is a large banner identifying the building as the home of "Swing Central." Address: 835 Main (at Broadway), Redwood City (510-482-2524) It is extremely easy to reach, being just a minute or so off Hwy 101: Take the Broadway exit (west) off 101, and immediately turn right onto Broadway. Go 1/2 mile on Broadway to an unusual intersection where you will stay in the left lane at the light, and continue going on straight-ahead with the green. Just a few hundred yards ahead is the intersection with Main. You are there. I don't know the exact times or cost, but they are just what you would expect I'm sure. The other event is Miller's Practica in San Francisco, at Rhythm and Motion - a great dancing establishment on Mission St. This is an old, classsic-looking, wooden place with multiple excellent dance floors, but Miller's is the best - the big gallery on the second floor. This is a practica in the Buenos Aires style. For the more experienced dancers, arrive after 9 pm. You may dance or practice any way you want as this is kind of environment for walking exercises, figures, technique, or, dancing to MIller's great music. Free-form, very casual; this is a "practica", not a milonga. $7, and it goes till midnight. For newer dancers, Miller offers a regular class, beforehand, at 8 pm I believe. Location: 1133 Mission St., (cross street 8th or 9th), on the south side. <<no financial interest/etc.>> Enjoy, _________________________________________________________ Steve Hoffman

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:22:16 -0800 From: Steve Hoffman <DrSteveH @IBM.NET> Subject: Two tango events this Friday in the San Francisco area Ladies and Gentlemen of the Bay Area Tango Scene: There are two relatively new tango tango events on the 4th Friday of each month in the San Francisco Bay Area. Neither has been advertised widely enough; both are excellent, and quite distinct in style: The first is Nora Dinzelbacher's Milonga which takes place for the third month now (I believe) in downtown Redwood City. (Everybody knows Nora and her great milongas, so I don't need to say any more here.) It is located in the historic part of downtown Redwood City, in the old Alhambra Theater which has been converted into a Ballroom on the 2nd floor. There is a large banner identifying the building as the home of "Swing Central." Address: 835 Main (at Broadway), Redwood City (510-482-2524) It is extremely easy to reach, being just a minute or so off Hwy 101: Take the Broadway exit (west) off 101, and immediately turn right onto Broadway. Go 1/2 mile on Broadway to an unusual intersection where you will stay in the left lane at the light, and continue going on straight-ahead with the green. Just a few hundred yards ahead is the intersection with Main. You are there. I don't know the exact times or cost, but they are just what you would expect I'm sure. The other event is Miller's Practica in San Francisco, at Rhythm and Motion - a great dancing establishment on Mission St. This is an old, classsic-looking, wooden place with multiple excellent dance floors, but Miller's is the best - the big gallery on the second floor. This is a practica in the Buenos Aires style. For the more experienced dancers, arrive after 9 pm. You may dance or practice any way you want as this is kind of environment for walking exercises, figures, technique, or, dancing to MIller's great music. Free-form, very casual; this is a "practica", not a milonga. $7, and it goes till midnight. For newer dancers, Miller offers a regular class, beforehand, at 8 pm I believe. Location: 1133 Mission St., (cross street 8th or 9th), on the south side. Enjoy. <<no financial interest/etc.>> _________________________________________________________ Steve Hoffman

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:17:03 +0100 From: elonce <elonce @POPMAIL.DIRCON.CO.UK> Subject: Crowded Salons >Saturday night in London was organised by El Once Club del Tango at the Warren >Bar in the Grafton Hotel, 130 Tottenham Court Road, a short distance away from >the old location at the Central Club Hotel on Great Russell Street. The bar is >large, but rectangular, narrow and long. There is a class before that. Large >turnout (150-200+) and very lively but a little crowded for the space. The event >ended at 1 a.m., so public transport back to my airport hotel at Heathrow was >limited: either all night buses on some routes, black taxis (not very many >around) or mini cabs (have someone call one if you are a visitor). A couple, >visiting dancers from Tango Pasion, performed too. > > >Back to life in Washington DC now.... > > >Regards to all. > > >Nitin Kibe Well, yes, it was a bit crowded, with 130+ dancers... but then it was our first night at this venue, having been at The Central Club for the past two years, so it was a bit of a party with many people coming to see what The Warren Bar was like. We expect that the numbers will be less as things settle down. But if you think that was crowded, Nitin, try Almagro on a busy night. By comparison, there was plenty of room at our place ! It was nice to meet you in person, and all the other visitors from overseas that night. Kind Regards, Paul Lange El Once Tango News http://www.elonce.dircon.co.uk

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:31:22 -0400 From: Matej Oresic <matej.oresic @CORNELL.EDU> Subject: June 26/27, October 29-31 in Ithaca/NY Hello tangueros, in case you are within driving distance from Ithaca/NY, you might join us in tango workshops and milongas this Saturday and Sunday, with lessons from Metin Yazir and Rina&Matej. For details, check: http://lancelot.bio.cornell.edu/matej/tango/ On October 29-31 there will be a tango festival in Ithaca, with guest teachers Facundo&Kely and Diego&Carolina, music by New York Tango Trio, daily milongas, as well as show which will also include, in addition to guest teachers, Bobby&Carol from Montreal, Rina&Matej, Ithaca Tangueros performance group, and more... (keep checking the WWW page for still emerging details) Similar event this February attraced about 100 dancers from the UpState NY area, as well as tangueros from Canada and East Coast US. Best, Matej

Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:59:14 -0700 From: Planet Tango <tangoman @HOOKED.NET> Subject: About 'musical separators' The 'cortina musical' is a device very popular in radio, and it is used to separate segments within a program, or as a background filler while the announcers are talking. In its original form and purpose, the musical separation in between sets at the milongas in Buenos Aires, has the purpose of allowing the gentlemen to walk the ladies back to their seats. The dance floor clears to facilitate the way for the waiter/waitress as they go about taking orders from the people sitting at the tables. The DJ loads the next set and he may make some announcements, promote special events or just prepare the crows for the next set. The eyeballing for the next set begins. Visits to the bathroom take place. Greeting of friends in and out of the bathroom also take place. People remind themselves that they have a life, and that they are enjoying it in high spirits during a relaxing night out. >Going back to cortinas, maybe djs should use songs which people cannot >readily dance to, such as classical music, world music, or something typical >of a region. [Gabriella Marino] If a milonga organizer outside Bs. As. cannot convey the purpose of the 'cortina' to his/her patrons, or it is not customary to have people sitting around the dance floor, then why bother with symbolism when substance is lacking? Legislating behavior (i.e. playing music that can't be danced, a quasi oxymoron considering the liberal use of 'any' sound loosely labeled tango as an excuse to stay on the dance floor by dancers in many parts of the country) could lead to instances of hiring security personnel to clear the floor by spanking the offenders with a fly swat. ;-) Perhaps some of the 'Garufas' who would even dance to Garibaldi's March, would stop and think what is it that we love so much about the Tango. Is it perhaps the richnes of its music, its dance, its culture, and the hundred year old traditions that make the craft so compelling? We have our usual Fourth-Saturday-of-the-month milonga this Saturday in San Francisco at 449 Powell St, 3rd. floor starting at 10 PM. People seem to love the attention we pay to details. We'll continue inviting the gentlemen to escort the ladies back to their seats after a set while the cortina fills the gap of time it takes our DJ to load another set of CDs. As a matter of fact I might even tell them about the music that's coming so those special 'dates' for that special 'set' can get ready. Wish you could all come! Tangazos, Alberto Thank you for visiting Planet Tango for up to the minute information at, http://www.hooked.net/~tangoman/

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:39:23 +0200 From: Mitra Martin <mitra.martin @BSUN.COM> Subject: tea and tango? Hello everyone, What are "Tea Tangos?" >From the sound of it, I'm guessing they are milongas that happen in the afternoon, around tea-time. Does anyone know how these kinds of milongas started? Is drinking tea a partof it, or is it just named for the time it happens? Why tea and not coffee? Does tea play a large role in Argentine culture in general? Are they normally 'regular' (i.e., weekly) milongas, or are they one-time milongas hosted by people?What are the occasions? How are they different from evening milongas? They sound so nice, and as a student of both tea and tango, I would like to learn more about how tango came tobe associated with teatime. Cheers, Mitra

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:35:43 EDT From: Carolina LUCZKOW <MLUCZKOW @AOL.COM> Subject: Thank you for your help / tango in SF I've send a message last week asking info about Tango in San Francisco, I received so many e-mail, Thanks everybody !!! We really have a "Tango Community" in Usa. and I think it is wonderful... SF is a beautiful City, the only problem was that I worked too much.. so I couldn't go to all the milongas, but I really enjoyed the one's I went, "great dancers" I hope I go again, but this time Vacation only..ja! Muchas Gracias.. Carolina

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:51:50 -0700 From: ramiro garcia <ramiro9 @YAHOO.COM> Subject: Re: the perfect follow Michael, > .... Even after I get a figure down, I don't > automatically go into that > figure if I don't feel as though it's been led > [properly]. I think we > follows can help the leads improve if we let them > know when we haven't felt > a lead even if we know what they were _trying_ to > lead. > I think that was one of the most valuable things that followers ever did for me when I was starting out. It really forced me to get my lead more clear. In fact, that is one of the good things about dancing with beginners. An experienced follower might guess what you want to lead, but a beginner, almost never. If you can get a beginner to dance the figure you intended, it's a pretty good sign that your lead is Loud and Clear. Having said that, however, I must say that there is a lady in town that will occasionally do what I was thinking about having her do, without my leading it. It makes my eyes pop. It is intoxicating, but I don't dance with her a lot, my heart can't take the strain. ;-) ramiro _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:53:50 +0200 From: Rossana Mandich <rossman @IOL.IT> Subject: Tango in Berlin? Dear tangueros, I'm planning to spend a few days in Berlin (end of July- beginning of August). I've been told there are good tango events in that period, but I haven't been able to find the information on the Internet (I don't speak German). Is there anyone form Berlin that can give me some suggestions? Thank you! Rossana

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:41:13 +0200 From: Mitra Martin <mitra.martin @BSUN.COM> Subject: Tango in Hawaii Hello again, I will be in Hawaii June 23rd - July 8th. Does anyone have any information about milongas there, or know how I could find it? Please reply to me directly if you do - mitra.martin @bsun.com. Thanks! Mitra

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:52:52 EDT From: Carolina LUCZKOW <MLUCZKOW @AOL.COM> Subject: apartment in Argentina Hola .... For those Interested: Now, there is a nice, warm and very well locate apartment to rent in Buenos Aires, when we go there, to dance Tango. The owners, Carolina Zokalski and Diego Di Falco, reside in New York City. I think it is a good option to consider: *locate in congreso, 1/2 half a block from Entre Rios Ave. (Callao Ave.) *downtown area, 5 to 10 minutes to ALL milongas. *2 blocks to bus stop (more than 10 lines) 3 blocks to subway *taxis 24 Hs., and 4 or 5 "remiseras" (private taxis, you call them) *all kinds of stores around (laundry, dry-cleaners, restaurant, ATM machines, markets, etc.) *apartment: one bedroom, living room, bathroom and kitchen. One double bed in bedroom, and one sofa-bed in the living room. *all brand new furniture. *goodies like microwave, VCR, cable TV (with Solo Tango Channel, of course, ha! ) coffee maker, freezer, magazines and info about tango, etc. * the person in charge of the keys lives right next door, it is good for questions, info, help... *It can be rent daily, weekly, or monthly.. Not unless you fell in love with Buenos Aires and decide to stay there for ever, dancing tango.. ja!! more info VCHACO @AOL.COM USA cellular (818) 694-1414, CAROLINA ZOKALSKI AND DIEGO DI FALCO Have fun.... Carolina Luczkow.

Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:13:25 -0300 From: "Lic. Sebastian de la Rosa" <delarosa @CIUDAD.COM.AR> Subject: 1999 World Tour of Tomas Howlin & Silvana Grill Dear List, I have the pleasure to announce a 1999 world tour of Tomas Howlin & Silvana Grill Here in this passage, you can find the dates of each place where they are going, Germany Hamburg >From June 21th to June 29th Bremen >From June 29th to July 5th

France Ales (Festival) >From July 5 to July 11

Spain Sitges - Barcelona >From July 14 to July 18

United Kingdon London >From July 20th to August 1st

Spain Madrid >From Augost 10 to September

United States September

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:22:26 EDT From: Victor Crichton <victor_vsc @HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: Tango Magic Here is a little information on the PBS show "Tango Magic". This is just from the point of view of having seen the show, I have no inside info. It was show here in Tampa Bay, Florida last week and it was definitely during a pledge drive. There is a video of the show that was offered for a pledge of at least $65. I don't know if it is available elsewhere without the pledge. There were four outstanding couples in the show: Fernanda Ghi and Guillermo Merlo Guillermina and Roberto Reis Carolina Zokalski and Diego DiFalco Sandor and Beverly The dancing was absolutely incredible, but of course, not salon Tango. Most of the dancing was quite modern and very interpretive using recognizable components of Tango along with movements borrowed from classical ballet and jazz. This was very fitting since all of the music would probably be categorized as 'new tango', primarily music by Astor Piazzolla and Pablo Ziegler. The music was performed live by a group led by Pablo Ziegler. I'm sorry, I can't recall the name of the other musicians. If you are a fan of Piazzolla's music and the music he influenced, you will love this show. If you are looking for DiSarli, D'Arienzo, etc, you may have to just focus on the dancing. I believe any Tango enthusiast will find something to enjoy. I hope that the people doing the pledge talks in your area are more interesting than the ones that were presented in mine! Victor _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:02:09 GMT From: Cecilia Paul <ceciliapaola @HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: Where to Tango in LA??? I will be visiting the LA area June 28-July 4. Can someone advise where the good Tango spots are and/or would like to dance? Thanx, Cecilia _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:28:23 -0700 From: Greg Lindberg <greg @CUBIK.COM> Subject: Radio Tango Hi all, I just joined the list and want to thank all of you for the positive feedback regarding Radio Tango (http://www.radiotango.com )and the offers of help. I never expected the flood of interest that I received and it has inspired me to add new features and content as soon as I find more spare time (e.g. a real-time jukebox, CD-purchasing, a high bandwidth stream, downloadable MP3 files, etc.) Check the site to see how I'm progressing. As for the common problem of skipping that's been reported, there is a simple solution which 9 times out of 10 will fix it: Go into the WinAmp Preferences under Input>>Plugins>>Nullsoft MPEG Audio Decoder>>Streaming Tab, and bump up the streaming buffer setting to 256 or 512. The stream will take longer to start as it saves up a cache of audio but it will smooth out the sporatic net congestion that causes skipping. Feel free to email me offline if you need any help getting set up or if you have any suggestions for improving Radio Tango. Thanks and enjoy, -Greg Lindberg greg @cubik.com

Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:58:03 +0200 From: "Holger A. Bock" <Holger.Bock @INFINEON.COM> Subject: Tango GRAZioso Tango Festival '99 Dear all ! After lots of work we are happy to be able to invite you to the Tango GRAZioso Tango Festival '99 in Graz / Austria from June 28th to July 7th Please have a look at our website http://www.info-graz.at/tango/index.html for further information, especially the program (in english) at http://www.info-graz.at/tango/festivals/tgtf_99/Program.html or (in german) at http://www.info-graz.at/tango/festivals/tgtf_99/Programm.html respectively. We are very happy to have Leandro PALOU and Andrea MISSE together with Gabriel MISSE and Maria Sol ALZAMORA in Graz, who will dance in a concert & show at the Orpheum venue in Graz to the music of the TANGUANGO Orchestra on Tue, June 29th. We will also have a Tango-Ball on Fri, July 2nd with Ulli BARTH and Amira CAMPORA dancing and LA REVANCHA playing live there, and lots of classes etc. etc. WE HOPE WE WILL Be ABLE TO MEET SOME OF YOU AT THESE EVENTS - YOU ARE WELLCOME !!! Kind regards, Holger, El GRAZioso, Maria, Thomas & Franziska (Tango GRAZioso)

Disclaimer: We don't have any financial interest in this event, it is organized just to have fun and good times with Tango for as many people as possible ...

Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:18:13 EDT From: Claude Dumont <CLDUMONT @AOL.COM> Subject: About the New Tango, Fabian, Gustavo and Co. Answer to Larrydla about the New Tango. About 3 years ago while mainly living in BsAs, I regulary attended the well-know Cochabamba 444, the practica of Gustavo Naveira, where the evolution of what some people are probably calling the New Tango. I never heard the terme here in BsAs (only Tango Nuevo by Piazola) but I think I know wath is meant by it. This kind of Tango dancing ist not for everyone. In my opinion (and from a lot of other peoples in BsAs too) it is mainly for youngmen, macho, egocentric, looking for some admirer or those who love the show. They never dance WHITH the women, bur ALONE. Why "only for yougmen" you have to be in very good physical condition to dance al the nigth this style. Practicaly every note is a step! After two or three Tangos it seemst,that the woman doesn t know anymore if she is"a woman or a man". I hope you know waht I mean! Why "for macho" The woman has to follow without taking neither initiative or decoration. She is pulled from right to left and from left to right. The famous feeling is gone! It is a one-Man-show. Why " for egocentric...etc" If a couple is dancing this style (like Gustavo) they need a minimum space of 2x2m! This mean that the other couples in a Milonga ( in BsAs) have to take a care. It is like having a show on the floor of a Milonga. There is no respect of other couples on the floor. A well-known milongero once said " to dance Tango is like being in love for 2 or 3 minutes" or something else. Sometimes it is true, depending of the partner s level, but it is possible. With the New Tango I don t believe it is possible. Last but not least, everyone is free to dance the way they want to. What is important is that the man have and gives pleasure and feeling to his partner. Claude, desde Buenos Aires CLDUMONT @AOL.COM

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:52:56 +0000 From: Mark Celaya <mark-joan-tango @JUNO.COM> Subject: Orlando Paiva in LA & New Milonga in Town!!! "La Milonga del Miercoles" Once again Maestro Orlando Paiva returns to Los Angeles. Orlando Paiva is known for his very unique, smooth and flowing style of tango, "Tango Elegante", and is considered by many experts to be the "most elegant tango dancer in the world today." On Sunday June 27th Orlando and his partner, Suzanna, will be teaching at the Hollywood Dance Center, 817 N. Highland Ave., between Melrose & Willoughby. Schedule as follows: Basic 2-3 pm Cost $15; Patterns 3-4:30 pm Cost $20; Both $30. ******************************* Everyone Welcome to the New Milonga in LA; "La Milonga del Miercoles" Grand opening evening Wednesday June 30! Guest teachers, Daniela & Armando, will also perform. Special guests Orlando Paiva and Suzanna will also perform. Dueling DJs Mark & Cesar will entertain with their unique musical selections. Large Dance Floor State-of-the-Art Sound System Free Refreshments Free Parking Classes including dance $15 (from 7:00 -8:30 pm) Dance only $10 (8:30pm-12:00am) This promises to be a great new Milonga and a Grand Opening Night! Located fwy close to LA & Orange Counties: DI's Corner 5211 E. Washington Blvd. (5 Blks E. of 710 Fwy), Exit Washington, Between 710 & 5 Fwys, Corner of Atlantic 7 Washington, City of Commerce Future Guest Teachers in July---Sandor! and Daniela & Armando! For more information contact: Mark Celaya (818) 763-1294 Looking forward to seeing you all there! ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 00:03:12 EDT From: Martha Ledger <LedgerX2 @AOL.COM> Subject: Spanish teacher in BsAs Several months ago, someone posted information about a teacher of Spanish in Buenos Aires. As best I recall, her name was Graciella Klein, but I could be way off here. Does anyone have a copy of the notice about her and her classes? Or information about how to reach her? Failing this, does anyone have another recommendation for Spanish instruction there? Many thanks, Martha

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