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There are 13 messages totalling 953 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Tango promotion in Washington DC (2) 2. Virus WARNING !!! (2) 3. Make the Tango-L administrator's life easier ... 4. the perfect follow (3) 5. Istanbul?? 6. No subject was specified. 7. ANSWER TO MITCHEL, THE TANGO FOLLOWER 8. Chicho & Cecilia, West Coast Workshop in L.A. July 30-Aug.2 9. Lisbon, Portugal ?


Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 10:30:24 +0200 From: Enrico Massetti <e_mass @EMAIL.MSN.COM> Subject: Tango promotion in Washington DC This is a multi-part message in MIME format.


=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEBB07.E8737B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In Washington DC there is a monthly event promoting tango to the general public in the historic Georgetown Park Mall, in the center of Georgetown. Organized by Sharon, sponsored by the Mall and by Cache, a store selling beautiful (and costly) dresses, a group of tangueros and tangueras dance in the Mall once per month, on the fourth Saturday, from 1:30 to 3:00pm. The event is successful, local teachers have a table where they leave fliers advertising their events, and everybody has a great time "performing" in public. A selection of a few pictures taken at the April Showcase are posted at: http://www.aaanetserv.com/tango/WashingtonDC.htm I have been at the April event with my wife, as we were visiting DC, and now we are thinking of organizing a similar event in Tampa. Ciao, Enrico.


Enrico Massetti 2432 Treemont Way Dunedin, FL 34698 phone: +1-727-733 5374 fax: +1-727-736 5260 e-mail: e_mass @msn.com


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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:45:49 GMT From: Ed Loomis <edl @WCO.COM> Subject: Virus WARNING !!! Hello Listeros y Listeras, I just received the latest post from Enrico Massetti and followed by that a Happy99.exe message via the Tango-L. Do not run this program! DELETE it immediately! This malicious code must have infected Enrico's system and is sending itself. Protect your system, do not run this program or attempt to open this file. DELETE on sight. Good luck. Ed Loomis --=20 "...mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent..." Adam Smith


Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:48:48 -0400 From: Enrico Massetti <e_mass @EMAIL.MSN.COM> Subject: Re: Virus WARNING !!! My apologies, this one is REAL, I am reformatting my hard disk, as both the antiviruses I have failed to clen'up my machine. Sorry, Enrico Hello Listeros y Listeras, I just received the latest post from Enrico Massetti and followed by that a Happy99.exe message via the Tango-L. Do not run this program! DELETE it immediately! This malicious code must have infected Enrico's system and is sending itself. Protect your system, do not run this program or attempt to open this file. DELETE on sight. Good luck. Ed Loomis -- "...mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent..." Adam Smith


Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:03:11 -0400 From: Shahrukh Merchant <merchant @ALUM.MIT.EDU> Subject: Make the Tango-L administrator's life easier ... Just a reminder that the Tango-L rules for posting of local events are still unchanged (since April 1996). Some new list members have (rightfully) pointed out the inconsistency that their postings on commercial local events are rejected (new posters' postings are temporarily routed through the administrators) while longer-term members on the list seem to post even minor local events with "impunity." A second reminder is that postings to Tango-L should be sent as plain text (in particular not HTML text, nor as MIME attachments). These two are the most common reasons for delays in approvals of new members' postings (or others whose postings are under review). They also result in the most special handling required by the administrator, so please do your part to minimize both (since I do have the time to read Tango-L every day)! 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Since this is not a useful or descriptive subject line, and you should replace it with the subject line of the message you are actually following up to (optionally preceded with "Re: ") or create a new appropriate subject line. ================= Posting of Local Events to Tango-L Since Tango-L is an international list with people from tens of countries all over the world, the listing of events that are primarily of local interest to a city is generally not appropriate. However, there are a number of exceptions to this rule and your posting may fall into one of these categories. If that is the case, please ensure that future posts clearly clarify the category your postings belong to. Your submissions are temporarily being routed to the list administrators to help ensure consistency of your postings with these rules. (All information here is available in the Tango-L rules that you received when you subscribed to the list and which you are encouraged to re-read. 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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:26:09 -0700 From: Michael Brooks <mbrooks @WIZARDS.COM> Subject: Re: the perfect follow I would like to share my perspective as a follow: >I am a relative newcomer to the Argentine tango but from my observations it >appears the 'perfect follow' should be blind and deaf. Deaf so that the >musicality and the beat comes through the lead and blind so that the follow >is always waiting for direction from the lead as from, for instance, a guide >dog. As a follow, there are times that I wish I were deaf (or leading) when my partner lacks a certain musicality or chooses to interpret music differently than I would. But it is important for me to hear the music, to feel it and to time the steps that are open to my interpretation such as embelishments. In fact, it can be said that a good lead and follow are just feeling the same impulse at the same time. >To practice a figure repetitively in a class strikes me as somewhat >self-defeating. When a follow knows where to go and how to move how does that >improve ones skill as the lead or, for that matter, ones sensitivity as a >follow? I don't think it does. I see practicing figures as improving one's technique. Improvisation is "practiced" separately and is an art unto itself. Even after I get a figure down, I don't automatically go into that figure if I don't feel as though it's been led [properly]. I think we follows can help the leads improve if we let them know when we haven't felt a lead even if we know what they were _trying_ to lead. I have been told that tango is all improvisation and that the tango basic was just created to have something concrete to teach (whether this is true or not). Ms. Michael Seattle, WA USA


Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:42:43 -0700 From: Esra Inan <inan @PANGEA.STANFORD.EDU> Subject: Istanbul?? Hi, Does anybody know of good places for dancing Tango in Istanbul?? Esra


Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:36:47 +0200 From: Jean-Pierre Jacquet <jpjfilms @CYBERCABLE.FR> Subject: No subject was specified. Any info on a tango event coming up in Sitges, Spain, in July? and Valencia? Thanx Jean-Pierre


Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:04:28 -0500 From: kathleen kreher <kathleen @ROMANCEINBLOOMS.COM> Subject: Re: the perfect follow > > I am a relative newcomer to the Argentine tango but from my observations it > appears the 'perfect follow' should be blind and deaf. Deaf so that the > musicality and the beat comes through the lead and blind so that the follow > is always waiting for direction from the lead as from, for instance, a guide > dog. Mitchell, as a follower you have offended me. Your comment suggests that as a follower I bring nothing to the dance. I should blindly obey. As far as being deaf: Perhaps I hear a particular point in the music that I would like to decorate, given the time and space from a good leader or if my movement does not interfere with his timing, I can do so. Adding some of myself to the dance. As far as being blind: Sometimes when I dance with a very good leader, someone that leads with his chest and frame, I can close my eyes and follow comfortably. However, this is not always the case. Sometimes I need to see that his leg is sticking out, expecting me to produce a gancho. > To practice a figure repetitively in a class strikes me as somewhat > self-defeating. When a follow knows where to go and how to move how does that > improve ones skill as the lead or, for that matter, ones sensitivity as a > follow? When learning a new step or figure try getting into it from a variety of positions so you can work on your lead and she learns to understand the response. This also makes the dance less pattern oriented and more improvisational. > I have a regular partner and I'm not always sure when her movements are in > response to my lead or to some kind of choreography we have developed between > us. I don't know if when a mistake is made if it follows from my ineptitude > as a leader or from her lack of following skills Don't do choreography!!! If you always do a media velta followed by a forward ocho into crusada, no matter how bad the lead, she will execute the step if that is what is expected. snip > > Also there is the problem posed by the fact that we, my partner and I, like > to dance close but when you dance with strangers, either in class or at a > milonga it is usually at arms length (well not exactly, but you know what I > mean 'salon'?). At a milonga the first dance I dance with a stranger, I usually don't dance as close as usual, but as I become more comfortable dancing with him, I will close the embrace. > > My reading of Tango-L leads me to believe that there are many experienced > tangueros who at some point in their education may have had to resolve such > questions. I would be extremely interested in hearing your thoughts on these > subjects as I have enjoyed reading your view on other subjects. Good luck and good tangos Mitchell and may you never come across that "deaf and blind" follower! Rosita


Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:50:03 -0700 From: Mike Hamilton <mikeh @MPL.UCSD.EDU> Subject: Re: the perfect follow Hello Mitchell, On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Mitchell Levitan wrote: > I am a relative newcomer to the Argentine tango but from my observations it > appears the 'perfect follow' should be blind and deaf. Deaf so that the > musicality and the beat comes through the lead and blind so that the follow > is always waiting for direction from the lead as from, for instance, a guide > dog. There are a couple of connections required to dance: connection to the partner, connection to the music, and connection to the floor. Sacrificing any of them will mess things up. So, deaf wouldn't help, since that would break the connection to the music. Following consists of a lot of things, even sight to some extent. So, blind won't really help, either. (Although I, too, envy the followers privlidge of closing their eyes occasionally). The ideal follow is one who can interpret the music and the beat *within* the lead being given. ie. one who can create a strong connection to the music while maintaining a strong connection to the partner. Of course as previously mentioned, it helps when the lead is connected to the music as well... ;-) > To practice a figure repetitively in a class strikes me as somewhat > self-defeating. When a follow knows where to go and how to move how does that > improve ones skill as the lead or, for that matter, ones sensitivity as a > follow? I completely agree, which is why I almost never lead exactly what is being taught in a class. I'll do other stuff around it, then lead through it, then do other stuff; maybe similar stuff so that I can figure out what differentiates the lead on the new step from leads on other steps I already know. On a tangent, this is also why I think it's really important to give people lots of time to dance during a class, and not take all the time explaining stuff. > I have a regular partner and I'm not always sure when her movements are in > response to my lead or to some kind of choreography we have developed between > us. I don't know if when a mistake is made if it follows from my ineptitude > as a leader or from her lack of following skills (I almost always suspect the > former). Likely, you're correct here. I'm pretty philosophically set in that if something goes wrong, 99% of the time it's the lead. Or at the very least, the lead might have been able to do something different of better to make it successful. Either way, it pushes me to do it better. > Also there is the problem posed by the fact that we, my partner and I, like > to dance close but when you dance with strangers, either in class or at a > milonga it is usually at arms length (well not exactly, but you know what I > mean 'salon'?). Yeah, switching back and forth when you're not used to one way can be tricky. It does change how things are led a little, and how difficult or easy different things are to lead. Learn the lead both ways - "close" and "open" ("milonguero" and "salon"...etc. etc. choose your term). It's a fun excercise. > My reading of Tango-L leads me to believe that there are many experienced > tangueros who at some point in their education may have had to resolve such > questions. Are continually resolving such questions.... Hmmm... hope I wasn't too verbose. Michael Hamilton formerly of Seattle, now of San Diego, and missing the Seattle follows (and friends) but, I'll see you Friday!!! (see http://www.22tango.com for show info!!!)


Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:24:34 -0400 From: Sergio Suppa <sergio @NCINTER.NET> Subject: ANSWER TO MITCHEL, THE TANGO FOLLOWER MITCHEL, Many followers close their eyes while dancing in orther to obtein more concentration. The follower hears the music and dances according to her interpretation of the music, following the "proposals" that her/his partner is suggesting. Even when she follows his lead she still has a lot of latitude as to embellishments and interpretation of the music. The purpose of the practice is to learn the necessary skills to dance tango. Once you possess those skills then you may improvise to the music. SKILLS such as leading, following, navigating, walking, turning, embellishments, music interpretation and rhythm, etc. When you become a good leader she will always follow your lead ( marca). If you show hesitation then she will get confused or backlead. As you suspect when mistakes are made it is usually due to leader ineptitude. The mistakes that the beginner follower makes are usually compensated by the good leader. Tango is usually danced in close embrace alternating with separation in order to obtain space to perform certain figures, such as in Salon Style, or always close such as in Milonguero Style. Few people like to dance keeping a minimal distance all the time because they have a very rich coreography that requires more space. The closeness or type of embrace is determined by the leader, at the Milongas or sometimes by the instructor during practicas. I hope these thoughts are of help. SERGIO


Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 04:26:09 GMT From: Alexis White <alexisltc @HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: Chicho & Cecilia, West Coast Workshop in L.A. July 30-Aug.2 A special invitation to all tango aficionados in the Western U.S: A weekend of tango with CHICHO & CECILIA in Los Angeles. In their only appearance on the West Coast. 4-day Intensive Tango Workshop, July 30 - August 2, 1999 If you attended the 1st International Tango Congress (CITA) in Buenos Aires this past March, they need no further introduction. If you were not able to attend the Congress, or cannot attend other Tango weeks in other parts of the U.S., here is a great opportunity to continue to study and learn from two of the most highly regarded teachers from the Congress. The 4-day workshop is structured in a progressive way that will take uninitiated and experienced alike, from the structure and fundamentals of the dance, through the more advanced and intricate movements, rhythms, and techniques. These classes are designed to build on the previous class. For the more experienced, there are a number of advanced/special classes designed with them in mind. And in L.A., you will also enjoy four great milongas that weekend, including a live band and a reception on Saturday night, as well as dancing with some of the best tangueros on the West Coast, gathered here for this very special event. Travel and Workshop packages are available. Please contact us at (818) 252-3320 or e-mail at LAtango @hotmail.com Or visit our web site at SCHEDULE Friday July 30th 7:00 - 8:30pm Special Class Iw, Women's Technique, S1 Special Class Im, Men's Technique, S2 8:30 - 10:00pm Special Class II, Rhythm, S3 Saturday July 31st 10:00 - 12:00pm Fundamentals I Class, F1 12:30 - 2:30pm Advanced I Class, A1 3:00 - 5:00pm Advance II Class, A2 Above Classes to be held at Screenland Studios, Burbank, CA Sunday August 1st 10:00 - 12:00pm Fundamentals II Class, F2 12:30 - 2:30pm Advanced III Class, A3 3:00 - 5:00pm Advance IV Class, A4 Monday August 2nd 7:00 - 8:30pm Special Class III, Boleos, S4 8:30 - 10:00pm Special Class IV, Sacadas & Ganchos, S5 Above Classes to be held at the Argentine Association of L.A., Burbank, CA 7 Classes F1, F2 lay the foundation and basic elements essential to mastering later, more intricate movements and concepts in this system. Although this class is for those new to tango and intermediate dancers, it is also highly recommended for those experienced in tango but new to this system, and those that want a review/brush up on the fundamentals. F2 is a continuation of F1. If you are new to tango just take F1 & F2 only. 7 Classes A1 through A4 are a progression and designed to build on the previous class, i.e. you cannot take A2 without having taken A1, and you cannot take A4 without taking A3. These classes are designed for the experienced dancers, although intermediates are encouraged to try. These classes will be restricted to a maximum number of participants. Signing up as a couple is not necessary but it is recommended. 7 Classes S1 through S5 are special master classes on specific subjects of tango technique. Highly recommended if you have taken A1 through A4, or are an otherwise experienced dancer. If you are an intermediate looking to push the envelope and begin to master particular areas of your dancing, and feel ready to tackle more complex dance skills, we encourage you to take these classes. 7 There will be = hour breaks between classes for refreshments, rest, practice or video taping 7 Every attempt will be made to ensure gender balance, as well as the evenness of skill level in all the classes. It is the students' responsibility to enroll in classes that match their skill level, as no special provisions will be made in advanced classes for students of lower proficiency. Please contact us if you have questions as to what classes you should be taking. For further information, registration or any other question regarding the workshop, please contact us at the number below. Cecilia & Chicho, The Los Angeles Tango Workshop Los Angeles 7 July 30 - August 2, 1999 (818) 252-3320, e-mail: LATango @hotmail.com, visit our website at I have no financial interest in this event. I and the LA Tango Project organization are a not-for-profit group whose sole interest is to promote and disseminate tango, and comitted to making Los Angeles a world class tango city. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com


Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:57:23 -0700 From: Bruss Bowman <Bruss @QMACS.COM> Subject: Lisbon, Portugal ? Any tango this coming week in Lisbon Portugal for a nomadic gringo dancer with rhythm?


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