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There are 16 messages totalling 759 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Tango Rueda (2)
2. Salida/Improvisation (2)
3. Getting around Buenos Aires
4. U.S. Tour of Carina Losano and Pablo Fontana (2)
5. Los Angeles Classes"s by Daniela & Armando and more
6. Re. Salida
7. Danel and Maria's web site...
8. Proper Introductions
9. Petition: Non a l'expulsion des Quais de la Seine.
10. The Lyndon Method - call for expressions of interest
11. Tango Magic on KQED
12. Tango in NZ?
13. Claudio Asprea y Agustina Videla
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:05:23 -0700
From: J Lane <jiml @HALCYON.COM>
Subject: Tango Rueda
From: white95r <white95r @HOTMAIL.COM>
>If anyone is interested in circle type dances or dances done in unison, he
>or she can try finding your local contra dance groups.
While it's true that contra is done in lines, or occasionally circles,
and sometimes even in squares, round dancing is associated with square
dancers, not contra dancers. For several reasons, there's very little
overlap between the contra and square dance communities.
From: Robin Young <rdcuer @MICRON.NET>
>The Round Dance structure allows a dancer to learn and dance a greater
>variety of figures than ballroom, in a shorter time and for a lot less
>money,
And with an emphasis on having fun, not on technique.
>And Argentine Tango is ... communication - totally spontaneous or
>somewhat memorized?
A dance which is not spontaneous might be a fine dance form, but it
would not be social Argentine Tango.
Jim
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:17:36 -0600
From: Tom Stermitz <stermitz @CSN.NET>
Subject: Re: Salida/Improvisation
> >>Juan Rando wrote:
> >
> >>I feel compelled to just remark on this simple and understated fact,
> >>because in our community of dancers, there has been the unfortunate
> >>propagation of the "Salida Atras" ...
> >
> >>When will there be an end to the proliferation of the "8 step basic"?
> >>Down with the "8 step basic" I say.
>
>Tom Stermitz responded:
>
> >The 8 Count Basic with Dreaded Back Step has long been my rant as
> >well. ...
>
> >You point out the obvious danger of beginner men who blindly thrust
> >their foot backward onto people behind them.
>
> >In addition it leads to a different flow of the dance: A sort of
> >repetitive 2 steps Forward, Side and Back, 2 F S&B, 2 F S&B... As you
> >say, the 8CBw/DBS becomes a routine, giving the men who use it a
> >robotic, repetitive dance, and you see them use the same rhythmic
> >pattern as well. Two years of this and you wonder if they EVER could
> >learn to improvise and play with the rhythm.
>
> >Garrit's solution of doing an extra step in place is only partially
> >helpful. It still locks beginners into a routine, and doesn't
> >illustrate that the next step could just as easily be forward or side
> >with the leader's right.
>
> >I prefer viewing tango as a walk: Right, Left, Right, Left. There is
> >NO step pattern in tango (ask ANY advanced dancer!), it is only
> >forward, backward, side, together in any direction.
Stephen P Brown <Stephen.P.Brown @dal.frb.org>:
>To me, Tom's comments about the 8CBw/DBS bring us to a discussion of
>improvisation. Slavishly copying prescribed figures is not
>improvisational. How bored we would be if every lead guitarist in a
>rock group or musician in a jazz band played the exact same solo or
>only a slight variation. Yet many leaders rely heavily on the same
>element--the 8CBw/DBS or its somewhat less sinister variant the
>8CBw/RS (Eight Count Basic with Rock Step). How interesting can
>that be to anyone but a beginning follower?
I have a simple challenge for Larry de LA and all the leaders who are
used to the 8CB. It is also a survey, because I am interested in the
results.
Dance for an entire evening without EVER taking a back step. The
"rock-step" or "in-place" step is also forbidden. In other words at
the "resolution" the next step must be either forward or to the side
(right side).
The survey is to measure the percentage of women who follow correctly
and takes a side with you or steps back with their left.
If the follower misses the lead it may either be her fault or the
leader's fault.
The second half of the challenge is to incorporate it into your
interpretation of the music. For example the resolution resolves the
end of a phrase, then what happens to begin the next phrase.
And the metric? What is the success/failure ratio (without blame to either).
Here are some other fun challenges:
Do an entire dance without EVER going into the crossed-foot system.
Do an entire dance without EVER leaving the crossed-foot system.
Tom Stermitz
2612 Clermont St
Denver, CO 80207
Chautauqua Publishing / Ragtime Interiors
"On-Line Arts & Crafts Movement Resource Directory."
(303) 388 - 2560
stermitz @ragtime.org
http://www.ragtime.org/ragtime/
http://www.tango.org/dance/
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:05:12 -0300
From: Janis Kenyon <jantango @FEEDBACK.NET.AR>
Subject: Getting around Buenos Aires
During five previous visits to Buenos Aires, I was reluctant to use
the bus system to get around the city. I was aware of the bus route book,
but since I didn't use them, I never purchased it. Now that I'm living here
it is necessary to use the collectivos. A friend told me about the computer
program called MAPA inteligente de calles. With this CD-ROM you can enter
your location (apt/hotel) and destination. With just one click, it will
tell you the nearest corner where you can take a collectivo (usually for
70 centavos) to your destination. It will list the streets you will travel
and the exact bus stop to your destination. This program costs only $25 at
Musimundo. It also includes post offices, schools, subte stations, postal
codes and other information.
When the program is installed, click Consultas, Recorridos, En Collectivo.
Enter two streets nearest your location (Desde) and two streets at your
destination (Hasta). Click Buscar; you will find the route number and the
streets taken to your destination.
Janis Kenyon
Americans in Buenos Aires
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:35:35 -0300
From: Janis Kenyon <jantango @FEEDBACK.NET.AR>
Subject: U.S. Tour of Carina Losano and Pablo Fontana
Carina Rosario Losano and Pablo Alejandro Fontana are organizing their next
tour in the United States for November through March 2000. I will be doing
the necessary paperwork to obtain their work permits and visas for U.S.
Immigration.
The cities on their tour are New York; Boston; Washington, D.C.; Raleigh,
NC; Chicago; Denver; Los Angeles; San Francisco; Portland; Seattle;
Anchorage; Miami.
If there is interest in hosting them in your city, please contact Carina
immediately at tango96 @isol.net.ar
Of note, Carina assisted choreographer Vincent Paterson in the film EVITA
and taught tango to Madonna.
Janis Kenyon
Americans in Buenos Aires
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:58:49 EDT
From: Daniela Arcuri <DATango @AOL.COM>
Subject: Los Angeles Classes"s by Daniela & Armando and more
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:17:58 -0400
From: Melinda Bates <tangerauna @EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: U.S. Tour of Carina Losano and Pablo Fontana
Carina and Pablo are fantastic teachers and dancers. Although they are
surprisingly young, their youth is not reflected in their thorough attention
to the tiniest detail of posture and balance, or their elegance. It is seen
in their clearly communicated delight in the dance. They are a treat to
watch and the opportunity to study with them should not be missed!
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:00:48 -0400
From: "Walter M. Kane" <oldzeid @FRONTIERNET.NET>
Subject: Re: Salida/Improvisation
Tom wrote on Thursday, July 29, 1999 12:17 PM:
> I have a simple challenge ...
>
> Dance for an entire evening without EVER taking a back step.....
I love hearing the doo-wops send-up: "Who Put the Dip in Dip-da-Dip-da-Dip?
Who Put the Ram in Ram-a-Lam-a Ding Dong?" (it's both the first line and
the title of the song). It would probably mess up the meter of that poetic
masterpiece, but apropos of the current discussion, I would add the line:
"Who Put the D in 8CB with the DBS?"
Tom's challenge is interesting, and might raise someone's consciousness
about whether he is really improvising, or if his feet are slavishly
reverting to unfortunate habits instilled at tango lesson #1. But there is
nothing inherently "Dreaded" about the Back Step.
My mother taught me, "... a place for everything, and everything in its
place" (I promise, that's my last quotation). There's a place in tango for
the back step.
By all means, teach your students not to step back blindly against the line
of dance, and give them the fundamental tools that free them from the
8CB's, to let them dance with spontaneity and navigate the floor. But it's
not instructive to leave the impression (as this discussion does) that a
back step by the man is necessarily a mistake, or a bad practice.
Golly, I sometimes take as many as three back steps in succession (before
turning to face the line of dance).
Happy tangos,
Tangringo
____________________
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Harriman, NY
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 23:59:49 -0700
From: AlbertoPaz <tangoman @HOOKED.NET>
Subject: Re. Salida
>Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:10:53 -0800
>From: "Percell R. St. Thomass" <dancealaska @ALASKA.COM>
>Subject: Salida.
>
>I agree with the pros and cons regarding the salida. Yet, is it "really"
>so bad?
>show me a dance that does not have a back step (boxes, rocks, etc).
Percell,
The discussion is not about back steps but about the bad habit developed by
those who learn tango from teachers who teach a "basic" pattern that has
become known as the Dreaded Eight Count Basic.
Because it becomes a habit, the man generally steps back on count one,
regardless of where he is in the line of dance. Most of the times, because
of the structure of the Eight Count Basic, the back step on count one will
be directly against the line of dance, which can and has caused many collisions.
There is another more compelling reason to start the salida with a side
step, and that is the traditional way a woman waits for the man to approach
her table before standing up.
When she stands up, she is facing the center of the floor, so the man
standing in front of her has complete vision of the line of dance to his
left, thus the first step is taken to the left side of the man (right side
of the woman) merging into the line of dance without interfering with the
rest of the dancers around him.
What happens after that depends on the ability of the man to improvise and
navigate while communicating his intentions clearly to the woman.
Tangazos,
Alberto
Thank you for visiting Planet Tango
http://www.hooked.net/~tangoman/
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:13:12 EDT
From: "Stephen T. Chin-Bow" <CHIN-BOW @SACC.HSCBKLYN.EDU>
Subject: Danel and Maria's web site...
Hi everyone-
Danel and Maria just put up their own web site.
It lists the locations of their milongas, their regular class schedule, and
also workshops.
The URL of the page is: http://members.xoom.com/tangotimes/
Say hi when you come through New York City.
BTW, I have no commercial interest in their events.
Stephen Chin-Bow
http://hallux.medschool.hscbklyn.edu/~chin-bow/
chin-bow @sacc.hscbklyn.edu
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:24:29 EDT
From: Randy Pittman <MailAlive @AOL.COM>
Subject: Proper Introductions
Hola! World Wide Tangueros:
We are: The Best of Times Dancing, Inc.
Sabrine Ballroom Shoes, Inc.
United States Tango Congress, Inc.
(all three companies are Miami based)
Randy Pittman Lydia Henson
3530 S.W. 75 Ave. 5757 S.W. 88 Ct.
Miami, FL 33155 Miami, FL 33173
305-267-6923 305-274-2705
www.BestofDance.com BESToTIMES @aol.com
We both have a financial interest in all three organizations. Good thing we
don't have to post, profitable financial interests. The promoters and
organizers of dance I've met across this beautiful country, I have not met
anyone, retired and living the life of luxury in the Bahamas. We all do this
for the love of dance, and if someone prospers financially then,
congratulations to them.
In Miami we promote the advancement of dance, all forms of dance. When
traveling thru Miami don't miss our Saturday Milonga and Tuesday Argentine
Tango Classes.
Saturday workshop and Milonga at the Polish American Club in Miami at 1250
N.W. 22 Ave. A quaint old-fashioned building that gives that Buenos Aires
feeling. Miami's only wood dance floor, 2,000 sq. ft. of smooth sweet
dancing. Workshop starts at 7:30 PM, we have enough room for beginners and
intermediate together. A 1 1/2 hour class with the milonga starting at 9:00
PM and dancing till 1:00 am with DJ music.
Tuesday evenings 2 hours of group class 6:30 PM - 9:30 PM, with a 1 hour
practica afterwards. Both Sat. and Tues. Tuition is $10.00
For all the American DJ's we have extra work. First learning the dance of AT
is a major undertaking. Then when we try to learn the music of the Tango,
Milongas and Tango Vals, some of us make it harder because we haven't learned
to speak Spanish yet. Under these circumstances putting together tango music
for parties can be difficult.
How to learn Tango music for dummies: The Big Secret? WinAmp.mp3
MP3 does more that play the Internet radio tango. Using a program like Audio
Catalyst with mp3, you can save compressed files to a hard drive giving you
quick and easy access to all your music. You can save all your CD's to a
hard drive. Giving you a quality of music your audience will think is CD
quality. You'll have to tell them it is not CD's.
If you have space problems with your hard drive. Quickdrive is your answer.
I use a 13 gig external hard drive, as a music box. I've over 200 hours of
music and I have used up about 1/3 of space on the external drive. Their new
external hard drive is designed for a 8 gig drive. Their instructions on how
to install 13 or 20 gigs do not work. Make sure you have a computer geek
friend that can make anything work.
The play list is the answer. There are many cute and pretty buttons on your
WinAmp.mp3, the most important is on the right hand side, PL (play list).
>From here you will add music to your list, save that list for the future,
make multiple lists, sort by song title, artist name, album name, when you
load Two or more CD's onto the playlist, you can alphabetize and it will show
all of your duplicate songs. It is a dream come true for any one to organize
and manage their music.
I never touch CD's at parties or classes. I open a lap top and run all my
music thru files. Its the easiest program I've ever used. You'll save hours
upon hours of work once you've saved your CD's to a hard drive.
Join us in Miami, have fun, with your mp3 and Tango Forever.
Randy y Lydia
visit us at www.BestofDance.com
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:42:31 +0200
From: Jochen Herdel <j.herdel @T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject: Re: Petition: Non a l'expulsion des Quais de la Seine.
Dear Pierre-Michel,
> Mauvaise nouvelle pour les amateurs de tango ` Paris: depuis le 21 juillet 1999, les bals
> organisis de manihre informelle sur les Quais de la Seine durant les mois d'iti sont sous
> le coup d'une interdiction pour... tapage nocturne.
[ rest cut ]
these are very very sad news! :-((
Is the dancing on the Quais de la Seine already forbidden?
Or do you still do it? And if: for how long?
What has happened exactly? Did some folks misbehave? Did it take place
too often?
I'm especially interested in this because of two reasons:
1) I'm organizing an open air tango as well and fear to run into the
same problems;
2) I've planned to come to Paris for Tango dancing at the Quais de la
Seine soon...
:-(((
Please give us some good news!!!!
Jochen
P.S.: Of course I've subscribed the petition!
--
e-mail: mailto:j.herdel @gmx.de
im WWW: http://home.t-online.de/home/j.herdel
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:50:39 EDT
From: Richard deSousa <M1APORT @AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Tango Rueda
I hope we're not going down the same road as the Macarena and Country Western
line dancing. Ugh!
Rich deSousa
Dear List:
The New Tango is being introduced by Fabian Salas et al, and now, Daniel
Lapadula (Tangomio @AOL.com) is bringing modernization to tango by dancing
tango in a circle "Tango Rueda"
Using traditional steps, with the help of a few of the advanced tangueros of
the area, a circle is formed of couples, and it starts off with everybody in
dancing position on the "Line of Dance." As the music starts, one of the male
members of the group calls a number (1 through 10) and everybody starts
dancing using the exact same step and sequence.
Some of the steps require that you maintain your same partner (mostly for
positioning), but the majority of them, the female partner is transferred
either to the right side or to the left side with turns and ganchos, making
very elegant combinations and being able to do them with different partners,
while dancing the same tango. Additionally, since everybody has to be doing
the same steps at the same time, it looks like if someone had spent months in
planning and practicing a very difficult choreography, but since all of the
steps are just traditional tango steps, anybody who can dance our gracious
art form, can look once and then join the "Rueda", because even with mistakes
that show up, everybody is laughing, and the mistakes can very easily be
fixed while the "Rueda" is going on.
The whole thing is a lot of fun, totally different from the traditional three
minute tango. This of course does not mean that the most beautiful dance in
the world, The Tango, will be changed in any way, it is just another example
of how diversified tango can be and how many different steps, combinations or
forms can be developed, while maintaining the seriousness of the original
expression.
Congratulations to Daniel Lapadula for having figured out a new way for us to
enjoy the dance. I do hope that soon, there will be at least one break at
every milonga where a "Rueda" can be danced, giving even more ways to meet
people and be social and sociable, than what we have and are today.
I have no financial interest in this, I just enjoy watching so many new
developments to an art form that I love and am still trying (and hope never
to stop trying) to understand.
Frank Sasson
Miami Florida
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 12:58:59 +1000
From: Paul Baxter <pbaxter @PERSONALBEST.COM.AU>
Subject: The Lyndon Method - call for expressions of interest
Whether you should be performing back steps seems to be a somewhat
contentious issue, like some other aspects of dance technique mentioned
during the short time I have been on this list.
Sooner or later, dance teachers face the familiar problem of having to
change someone's technique because, for one reason or another, they have
picked up the "wrong" way from self-taught efforts or from previous
teachers. People often get it wrong, despite their best intentions. A major
problem then is trying to unlearn wrong ways after they have been
repeatedly performed (practiced) and allowed to go on uncorrected so they
have become bad habits.
While practice is necessary to develop skill, there comes a time when skill
development is slowed or blocked by what appear to be technique
difficulties. Despite quality teaching and well motivated dancers, change
and improvement comes only slowly and although the dancer appears to catch
on and improve during practice and coaching sessions and while under the
watchful eye of the teacher, performance starts to fall apart during
competition. The dancer appears to forget what he or she has been taught
and reverts to old incorrect ways. This is widely known as the "transfer of
learning problem."
I am willing to share with selected dance teachers a new approach to skill
development and correction based on the work of Benton Underwood, an
American psychologist, who examined the phenomenon of learned errors or
habit errors caused by proactive habit interference (old skills interfering
with new skills). This methodology overcomes the transfer problem and is
the first approach to achieve this quickly. It requires very little
monitoring, does not rely on artificial "rewards" or "punishments" to
produce results, is user friendly, empowering and is very cost-effective.
My offer is to assist in applying this teaching methodology, which is
endorsed by two State governments in Australia, to a specific and
significant technique difficulty encountered by an elite or a promising
dancer, free of charge on a trial basis. The results of this trial can then
be viewed by all on this list so they can make up their own minds, provided
that the dancer and teacher concerned agree to such disclosure, of course.
Interested teachers can examine the Australian National Training Authority
funded research evidence, case histories and workplace trial results upon
which this behaviour change methodology is based by emailing me direct. I
will then give you the relevant URLs.
Regards,
Paul
pbaxter @personalbest.com.au
Dr Paul Baxter MAPS
Personal Best Systems (R). Personal and professional coaching.
More gain; less pain.
PO Box 197 Mt Ommaney, Brisbane, Australia 4074.
Tel +61 (0)500 579 257. Fax +61 (0)7 3376 1576.
Email: pbaxter @personalbest.com.au
Internet: http://www.personalbest.com.au/~pbaxter/habits.htm
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:17:55 EDT
From: Lisa Morrison <LDMCoach @AOL.COM>
Subject: Tango Magic on KQED
Dear Bay Area Tangueros,
According to the KQED guide for August, "Tango Magic" will be airing on Ch.
9, in the San Francisco Bay Area on Monday, August 2 at 9:55 pm. I know
this program has already aired in other parts of the country.
The PBS program guide describes it as follows:
"Tango Magic" features four pairs of dancers, including the principal cast of
Broadway's acclaimed Forever Tango, performing and tracing the history of
this dance.
Enjoy!
--Lisa
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:27:30 +1000
From: Conrad Sernia <c.sernia @MAILBOX.UQ.EDU.AU>
Subject: Tango in NZ?
Dear List,
I'll be in the North Island of New Zealand from the 3rd to the 13th of August, starting at Auckland. Could New Zealanders on this list direct me to venues or classes for Argentine Tango? Thanks.
Even though I am a "silent" member of this list, I really enjoy the discussions. I read all your contributions with great interest.
Conrad Sernia
Brisbane, Australia
Tangonut Home page: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Jardin/9362/
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University of Queensland
Q4072, Australia
(Street Address not required)
Tel: 617-3365-3180
Fax: 617-3365-8228, or e-FAX 603-737-7262
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:05:52 +0200
From: "C.Hoefer" <hoefer @UKL.UNI-FREIBURG.DE>
Subject: Claudio Asprea y Agustina Videla
hello list!
Can anybody give me some information about Claudio Asprea and Agustina Videla?
Thank you!
Claudia
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