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There are 12 messages totalling 570 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Sydney and Melbourne?
2. Air fares to BA from NYC
3. Omar Vega in Chicago
4. Tango Rueda (3)
5. Fabian Contact information
6. Nestor & Patricia Ray in Santa Barbara (CA)
7. Tango Cruise
8. El Bandoneon ?
9. Las Ollitas
10. Fw:
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:26:07 +1200
From: Neville Waisbrod <waisbrod @ACTRIX.GEN.NZ>
Subject: Sydney and Melbourne?
I am looking for somewhere to dance(lessons or Milonga) in Sydney on the
16,17 and 18 of August and in Melbourne on the 19,20 and 21st of August.
Neville
Wellington
New Zealand
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:11:56 +0200
From: Raimund Schlie <kbb @PODEWIL.DE>
Subject: Re: Air fares to BA from NYC
Oops! Hal is right. I did already give up to explain this to all the
millenium enthusiasts.
Raimund
Hal Waite wrote:
> Mitchell Levitan wrote:
> >
> > We are planning to dance the millenium out in BA and would appreciate
> > information on the best air fares.
> >
> > Thank you list,
> >
> > Mitchell
>
> Mitchell:
>
> You will need to be there on December 31, 2000. There was no year zero
> and a thousand years brings the millennium to January 1, 2001.
>
> Hal
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:06:59 EDT
From: Verena Faigle <VERENAV @AOL.COM>
Subject: Omar Vega in Chicago
RecuerdO
proudly presents
OMAR VEGA
One of Argentina's finest Tango Masters
OMAR VEGA
The Tangueros of Buenos Aires call Omar "The Master of Milonga" & "The King
of the Counterstep". One of the New Generation Tangueros, seen in the movie
The Tango Lesson and on Solo Tango, Omar teaches and performs all over the
world with intense passion and elegance.
SCHEDULE OF CLASSES
Beginner Tango, Saturday July 31 -- 11:00 AM - 1:00 PM, for newcomers to
Tango, or those that want a more solid foundation in technique. $45.
Milonga I, Saturday July 31 -- 1:15 PM - 2:45 PM, for those with a knowledge
of Milonga, and want to get inside the mastery of the dance and the
Counterstep. $45.
Intermediate Tango, Sunday August 1 -- 11:00 AM - 1:00 PM, for intermediate
dancers, this class will strongly emphasis technique and teach you how to
navigate around the dance floor. $45.
Milonga II, Sunday August 1 -- 1:15 PM - 3:45 PM, this class builds on
Milonga I, going deeper into music and understanding the dance technique.
$45.
PRIVATE LESSONS AVAILABLE, SPACE LIMITED, $100. ENROLL IN 3 CLASSES $120.
CLASSES HELD AT:
Blue Door Studio 2010 W. Carroll Ave.
3 Blocks south of Grand, just west of Damen
For reservations call: Michelle & Carlos (312)701-0711
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:06:56 -0400
From: "Walter M. Kane" <oldzeid @FRONTIERNET.NET>
Subject: Re: Tango Rueda
Hi Listeros,
About 10 or 15 years BT (before tango -- for us, that is), when we had
been desperately looking for an environment where we could dance ballroom,
we found a group that was doing something called Round Dancing (Fox Trot
Rueda?). It was ballroom steps, done in unison, by several couples moving
in a circle. They didn't hold hands; each pair was joined in the usual
partner position, but they maintained a tight, continuous circle, doing
their choreographed thing.
It was interesting to watch, but the best thing I can say about it as a
dance experience is that it was a pleasant social evening. So is gin rummy.
Tangringo
____________________
Walter M. (Tangringo) Kane
Harriman, NY
oldzeid @frontiernet.net
Visit us at Hudson Valley Tango
http://nycdc.com/hvtango
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Tango Lyrics in Spanish and English at
http://www.hooked.net/~tangoman/letras.htm
Por el fomento y progreso del Tango
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:47:58 +0100
From: white95r <white95r @HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Tango Rueda
If anyone is interested in circle type dances or dances done in unison, he
or she can try finding your local contra dance groups. Unlike tango, contra
dance is done in large groups and in unison, steps and figures are done to
at the caller's prompting and each couple dances some figures with each
other and some figures with the next couple in line (or circle), switching
partners as they progress down the line (or around the circle).
IMHO, the character and feeling of the tango is antithetical to the circle
or line dances. There is nothing wrong with either and both can be quite
enjoyable. For me, there is no need to make Tango into a circle dance or a
line dance or even a *called* dance. One can find a much more appropriate
environment and music for this type of activity in other dance/music forms.
Old time fiddle music is quite excellent for called dances and there is a
good variety of these forms to satisfy most people. Go and try them, the
schottish, hambo, and polka are done in unison and to the music without a
caller. The contra dance and old time square dances are done also in unison
and to the prompt of the caller as well as to match the music. Anyone
wishing to try these will be pleasantly surprised by the good attitude and
friendliness of the people involved in these activities.
For me, the tango is fine in the way it is danced by most people in a
milonga setting. It is improvisational, spontaneous and totally
individualistic and instrospective. I prefer it this way. If I want to do
other dances, I'll just go to those venues and enjoy the more suitable music
and dance forms.
Happy dancing to everyone, whichever form you choose,
Manuel
www.tango-rio.com
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:48:28 -0700
From: Bruss Bowman <Bruss @QMACS.COM>
Subject: Fabian Contact information
Does anyone have the current contact information ( phone number specifically
) for Fabian Salas?
Thanks,
Bruss Bowman
Senior Database Administrator
Quality Care Solutions Inc.
http://www.qmacs.com
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:41:27 EDT
From: Jeanne Worley Hill <GeneJeanne @AOL.COM>
Subject: Nestor & Patricia Ray in Santa Barbara (CA)
I fully concur with Fay's comments concerning Nestor and Patricia Ray! I
cannot add anything except to say that they are also friends of ours and we
are delighted to have them with us again. They return to the San Francisco
Bay Area and we have the privilege and pleasure to have them give a workshop
in Lafayette, CA on August 13 (Friday). Nestor and Patricia are prepared to
give the MILONGUERO style (for which Nestor is so well-known), the Milonga
con traspie and the Vals, depending upon what the class prefers. Lafayette
Dance Center, 3369 Mt. Diablo Blvd., Lafayette, 8-10:30 PM for $20 per
person. Please call Jeanne Hill at (925) 283-0191 for reservations since
space is limited.
Jeanne
Queridos Tango-Leros;
This weekend we will welcome Nestor Ray & his wife Patricia back to
Santa Barbara for another workshop. Since last year, they have spent much
of their time in Europe on an extended, and well-received, performing &
teaching tour.
As you may know, Nestor is one of the last of the true milongueros,
who began dancing back in the '50s and never stopped. He is probably best
known as one of Robert Duvall's principal teachers, and he's also taught
such notables as John Travolta & Sharon Stone. In 1996 he was a featured
instructor at the Stanford University Tango Weeks.
An extraordinarily versatile dancer, Nestor is "fluent" in several
"dialects" of tango: his Salon is elegant, his Milonguero rhythmic &
playful, and his Fantasia nothing short of spectacular.
The workshop will be held Saturday, July 31 & Sunday, August 1; there
will be two classes each day:
The first session each day (1-3PM) will concentrate on the
rhythmic, close-embrace style known as Tango Milonguero. The cost is $25
each day, and class will be held at Carrillo Recreation Center, 100 E.
Carrillo St., Santa Barbara CA.
The second class each day (4-7PM) will be devoted to two of
Nestor's favorites: Milonga con Traspie & Vals Cruzado. The cost for this
class is $35 each day, and class will be held at "A Fascinating Rhythm"
Studio, 11 W. Ortega St., Santa Barbara CA.
After each day's classes, we will retire to the beautiful Cafe
Buenos Aires (1316 State St.) known for its frequent outbreaks of
spontaneous tango.
Nestor & Patricia will be available for privates until they take
their leave August 6. Call Fay for details & scheduling: (805) 687-2113.
N&P are two of our all-time favorites, as dancers, as teachers, and
as friends. We can't recommend them highly enough. Please join us.
Besitos,
Brian & Fay
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:42:35 EDT
From: Frank Sasson <FRSASSON @AOL.COM>
Subject: Tango Cruise
Queridos Tanqueros,
Tango Miami, aka =93Tango Under the
Stars=94 has put together a cruise which will
include a night of Tango for your enjoyment.
Our Sea Escape Dinner Cruise is
scheduled to depart from Fort Lauderdale on
Saturday, August 21, 1999 At 7:30 p.m. We
will be returning at around 1:30 a.m.
However, check-in is at 6:00 p.m.
We have shopped around and have
been able to get the best possible price. The
cost will be $40.00 per person which is a
group rate. This will include a buffet style
dinner, dancing, a show and all state and
port taxes. Any drinks and gambling on
board is extra. An early morning breakfast is
optional at a $4.00 charge for those that are
interested.
The ship departs from Port Everglades
in Fort Lauderdale at Pier #1. And cruises in
the ocean. Basically, it is a trip to nowhere,
but one which we think will be a lot of fun.
Parking is available at the Convention
Center Parking Lot, which is adjacent to the
Pier. The cost is $8.00 for the night. May we
suggest carpooling? If someone has a van
we=92d be interested in speaking with you.
If you are interesting in joining us for a
night of tango, dinner and fun please have
your checks to us no later than August 2,
1999. We prefer that you contact us as early
as possible, since after that date the cost
goes up about $15.00 if space is still
available.
We welcome all those that have an
interest in coming to do so. Whether or not
you dance, professional or student, singles
or couples alike, Please join us.
You can contact us at:
tangomiami @hotmail.com.
or you can call any of the following
tanqueros:
Carlos Garces @ 305-575-6323
Guillermo Blanco @ 305-654-8942
Lily Ader @ 305-891-1659
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:02:24 -0700
From: AisA <aisstilla @YAHOO.COM>
Subject: El Bandoneon ?
Does anyone know how to get in touch with El Bandoneon
label ?
I'd appreciate the help
Thanks
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:52:41 EDT
From: Want2Dance @AOL.COM
Subject: Las Ollitas
Dear List,
I recieved an e-mail from a Argentinian friend of mine describing a
project in Argentina that helps povery sticken people regain dignity by
forming food kitchens in which they "work for their supper". I was moved by
the account of what they are doing. Although this is not a dance message, I
thought that some of you who are involved in Argentine Tango might be
interested in helping a good cause in Argentina.
I asked Jorgelina to write a short note to tell you about the project &
you can contact her if you'd like to learn more. Here's what she wrote:
"Argentina has eight million inhabitants living below poverty level. Las
Ollitas, self generating food kitchens founded by Jorge Nogues and Nora
Gonzalez, are the exemplary effort of two people who give themselves
wholeheartedly to feed those in need, both physically and spiritually. For a
copy of "Las Ollitas, Love and Solidarity in Action. (Notes from a trip to
Catamarca, Northern Argentina)" contact "Corner of Hope" at
Jorgelina7 @aol.com."
Barbara Lavi
Want2Dance @aol.com
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:03:49 -0600
From: Robin Young <rdcuer @MICRON.NET>
Subject: Re: Tango Rueda
Walter, et all
Rueda's or 'Mixers' in a circle of dancing couples occurs in the movie
"Dance with Me" in a Salsa Rhythm. Round Dance instructors often use
Mixers in Waltz, Two-Step, Fox Trot, Quickstep, Jive, Cha cha, Samba and
Mambo - the Fun Rhythms - with new dance couples to help them, by mixing
them up with the more experienced dancers.
Slow Two-Step, Merengue, Tango, Rumba and Bolero - the sensuous dance
rhythms - are taught to couples without mixers.
It is true that the Choreography written to 'fit' the music is employed
and prompted by Cuers. This Egalitarian Dance Form is internationally
popular and for good reason. The Round Dance structure allows a dancer
to learn and dance a greater variety of figures than ballroom, in a
shorter time and for a lot less money, and lead without having to invent
the sequence on the dance floor. This uniformity prevents Dance Floor
Collisions and it is definitely not for everyone since there is very
little spontaneity. I like Round Dancing and I like writing
Choreography.
The difference seems to be that one doesn't have to memorize sequences
as amalgamations that were taught when my parents took lessons from
Arthur Murray and then became Fred Astaire Instructors.
I have heard there are Ballroom Competition Dance Teams of couples
dancing in unison...is there spontaneity there? Definitely communication
of some sort...
And Argentine Tango is ... communication - totally spontaneous or
somewhat memorized?
Rockin' Robin
>
> It was interesting to watch, but the best thing I can say about it as a
> dance experience is that it was a pleasant social evening. So is gin > rummy.
Having never 'watched' gin rummy, I can't compare, but I'd rather be
dancing than being a 'spec-tater' from Boise, Idaho ...the home of
famous Po-taters.
>
>
IdahoWebSite http://netnow.micron.net/~ryoung
"People don't stop dancing because they get too old;
People get too old because they stop dancing." ANON
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:35:05 -0700
From: smling <smling @EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Subject: Fw:
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Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 9:31 PM
Dear listeros,
having just returned from 2 wonderful weeks in BA I wanted to pass on =
some tips. I was a little worried about going in "winter" but it was =
actually nice. Most of the time I needed a jacket especially in some =
studios which were unheated. But there was very little rain, and one =
day was warm and sunny, only a sweater needed. There were fewer =
tourists and the milongas were packed with great dancers. It was easy to =
get a hotel room and because there were fewer tourists the Argentinians =
had more time to spend with us.
For music I found a great place on Avenida de Mayo 917, a block up from =
Tortoni's Cafe, which has some tango CD's , a very eclectic and changing =
collection, some on clearance for only $5 each. I bought about ten, =
including some great d'Arienzo and the singer Nelly Omar and one with =
only valsecitos. The staff is really nice there and will play anything =
you want before you buy it. Also they carry Emma Shapplin Cd's in both =
Italian and Spanish, which are impossible to get in the states, called =
Carmine Meo. the other great place for music is Oscar Himschoot, Club =
de Tango, Parana 123, 3 blocks below Callao stop on the B subte line. =
carries only tango music, and knows everything about it. Has all kinds =
of collector's items. CD's range in price, but he will give a discount =
if you buy in quantity.
There is a great show now, only on Fridays and Saturdays at Teatro =
Pigalle, called Una Celebracion de Tango, with two wonderful dancers, =
Giuliana Rosetti and Leonardo Cuello. It is in Recoleta on pres. Ortiz =
1835, 48068051. It has not been heavily publicized. the dancers tell =
me that the hotels want to charge a 100% commission to sell tickets to =
it. So ridiculous. so the theatre is not packed, but it's definitely =
the best show in town right now. The dancers are really wonderful with =
original choreography that is a combination of tango, modern, and =
something else unique. =20
A new daytime milonga is at italia Unita Juan Peron 2543, wed and =
Saturday afternoons. the daytime milongas at Confiteria Ideel on Monday =
and friday, and at La Pavadita Tuesday and Thursday all continiue to be =
great. Of course the best dancing is during the last two hours of the =
milonga when the die hards refuse to go home and the floor has cleared =
so that you can dance without as much fear of bumping into others.
For lessons I high recommend Oscar Mandagaran of Forever Tango, =
49542881, as well as Graciela Gonzalez, Mingo Pugliese and Norma and =
Ernesto Carmona.
Horacio, the photographer on El Caminito will make you gorgeous color or =
black and white photos in tango poses and regalia for very reasonable =
prices.
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>having just returned from 2 wonderful weeks in BA I =
wanted to=20
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but it=20
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in some=20
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one day=20
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tourists and=20
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room and=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>For music I found a great place on Avenida de Mayo =
917, a=20
block up from Tortoni's Cafe, which has some tango CD's , a very =
eclectic and=20
changing collection, some on clearance for only $5 each. I bought =
about=20
ten, including some great d'Arienzo and the singer Nelly Omar and one =
with only=20
valsecitos. The staff is really nice there and will play anything =
you want=20
before you buy it. Also they carry Emma Shapplin Cd's in both =
Italian and=20
Spanish, which are impossible to get in the states, called Carmine =
Meo. =20
the other great place for music is Oscar Himschoot, Club de Tango, =
Parana 123, 3=20
blocks below Callao stop on the B subte line. carries only tango =
music,=20
and knows everything about it. Has all kinds of collector's =
items. =20
CD's range in price, but he will give a discount if you buy in=20
quantity.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>There is a great show now, only on Fridays and =
Saturdays at=20
Teatro Pigalle, called Una Celebracion de Tango, with two wonderful =
dancers,=20
Giuliana Rosetti and Leonardo Cuello. It is in Recoleta on pres. Ortiz =
1835,=20
48068051. It has not been heavily publicized. the dancers =
tell me=20
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it. So=20
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best=20
show in town right now. The dancers are really wonderful with =
original=20
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unique. </FONT></DIV>
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hours of=20
the milonga when the die hards refuse to go home and the floor has =
cleared so=20
that you can dance without as much fear of bumping into =
others.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>For lessons I high recommend Oscar Mandagaran of =
Forever=20
Tango, 49542881, as well as Graciela Gonzalez, Mingo Pugliese and Norma =
and=20
Ernesto Carmona.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Horacio, the photographer on El Caminito will make =
you=20
gorgeous color or black and white photos in tango poses and regalia for =
very=20
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