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There are 14 messages totalling 775 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Metin Yazir workshop in Los Angeles (2)
2. A better workshop
3. GROUP LESSONS
4. Traspie spelling please
5. A dash here, a pinch there...
6. Group Lessons (5)
7. last tango (2)
8. Tango Hospitality in Roma and also in New York
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 03:24:09 EDT
From: Maritza Bodine <TangoVenus @AOL.COM>
Subject: Metin Yazir workshop in Los Angeles
Following the Hollywood Special Event, His Majesty: The Tango
Metin Yazir will be conducting
workshops on Sunday, July 25th.
Don't miss this opportunity to experience a lesson with Metin who is a grea=
t
dancer and teacher. This is his first trip to the West Coast. He has devoted
fans on the East Coast, Europe and on this list (anyone who knows him care =
to
comment on this ?)
Workshop Schedule:
1:30 - 3:00 Lead & Follow Technique
3:00 - 4:30 Milonga
4:30 - 6:00 Boleos/Sacadas
Price: $20 per workshop, $50 all three workshops
Location: Moro Landis Studio (Tel. 818/753-5081)
10960 Ventura Blvd, Studio City 91604
For Registration call:=20
Maritza Bodine
818/784-3131
Alberto De Llano
323/655-2224
**************************
Directions:
>From Los Angeles:
Take the 101 Freeway North (pass Universal Studios)
Exit Ventura Bl, turn right
Go approximately 1/4 mile, Moro Landis Studio is on the left.
>From the 405 Freeway
Take the 101 Freeway East - Los Angeles=20
to the 101 South - Hollywood Freeway
Take the 1st exit, Vineland, turn right
Take it to Ventura Bl, turn left
Moro Landis is on the right side, =BD block past the corner
>From the East - Glendale/Pasadena
Take the 134 Freeway West
Exit Lankershim Bl, turn left
Go to Ventura Bl, turn right, Moro Landis Studio is approximately 1/4 mile o=
n=20
the left
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 23:14:26 -0700
From: AlbertoPaz <tangoman @HOOKED.NET>
Subject: A better workshop
>Since I am not an organizer of workshops, I don't know what kind of
>difficulties are presented by trying to design a better workshop.
None whatsoever.
Valorie and I have done it twice already and we are ready to trepeat this
coming Labor Day weekend in Reno, Nevada.
This year, Fernanda Ghi and Guillermo Merlo, Daniela Arcuri and Armando
Orzuza, will join Valorie and I to offer participants the best designed
Three-day Tango weekend.
1.- The ratio of students to teacher is limited to 10 to 1.
2.- Every participant is treated equally regardless of experience or gender,
and EVERYONE receives the same amount of instruction time and material, and
the same amount of attention from EVERY instructor.
3.- Work and fun are carefully balanced in an setting where the fact that
the participants are who we are there for, is never forgotten.
Our choice of faculty is based on the proven track record of qualified
instructors. Those who have participated already know that the Tango Getaway
is not about paying to watch trained dancers dance (that is what theaters
and movie houses are for) but it is about them getting to be the dancing
stars we all enjoy watching Sunday night. ;-)
For more information about the Labor Day Tango Getaway visit,
http://www.hooked.net/~tangoman/reno-99.htm
For participants testimonials, visit,
http://www.hooked.net/~tangoman/reno-98.htm
Fondly tangazos,
Alberto
P.S. This coming Saturday, July 24 at our regular 4th
Saturday-of-the-month-milonga, friends and admirers of Valorie Hart will
join me to celebrate La Mariposa's birthday (the B-day is actually July 21
for those who have been asking).
The theme of the milonga will be Hawaii Five O for obvious reasons, so dress
Hawaiian, surf into the city and book them, Dan'o.
No coconut cups bras please!
Grass skirts optional.
Everybody gets lei'd at midnight.
:_) :-)
449 Powell St., 3rd floor in San Francisco's Union Square.
No caraculis please!
Thank you for visiting Planet Tango
http://www.hooked.net/~tangoman/
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 05:00:39 EDT
From: "Laurie Moseley (at home)" <LGMoseley @AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: GROUP LESSONS
One way round this problem is devote at least some of the teaching and
practice time to getting men to dance with men (they then get some idea of
how difficult it is to follow a poor [or no] lead, and just how much off
balance you can be when the man is too powerful), and women to dance with
women (they then get some idea of just how much an inexperienced man has to
think about when leading). I've been pleasantly surprised at the reaction of
beginners and intermediates at our club to such exercises. Almost everyone
says "I didn't know that .... ".
Occasionally, it helps to have a lady leading a man, although in my
experience this benefits the lady more than the man, and, because of the
man's inexperience in the follower's part, she has to be more forceful than
one would normally wish.
The main problem with this approach is that some men seem to be unwilling to
dance the follower's part, especially when the leader is another man. It's
probably less likely to cause a hang-up, though, when everyone is doing it as
part of a class.
Laurie (Laurence)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:15:05 -0600
From: Naomi Bennett <Naomiben @SWBELL.NET>
Subject: Traspie spelling please
How do I spell traspie style of tango properly?
It's an old milongero style of walking with beautiful footwork by the man
with staccato steps and marks like the ocho cortada.
Naomi Bennett
Austin, TX
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:16:49 -0700
From: AlbertoPaz <tangoman @HOOKED.NET>
Subject: A dash here, a pinch there...
A dash of salt and pepper goes a long way to customize the taste of a meal,
but a dash too many in the name of a web page is worse than a heartburn
before dinner.
Thank you Frank for pointing out the error. The correct addresses for the
information about our Reno Tango Getaway are,
http://www.hooked.net/~tangoman/reno99.htm
http://www.hooked.net/~tangoman/reno98.htm
It ocurred to me that a Tango Weekend resembles a special night out to a
good restaurant. Thus, announcing that there will meat, bread and potatoes
(the best beef, the crunchiest bread, the sweetest potatoes, etc., etc.)
does not guarantee the kind of dinner that will be served and how it will be
prepared.
We have for the last three years, planned and designed a "menu" in advance,
and we have made it available to the public in advance of them making a
decision to come out. We have already people who are coming back for the
third time and some are bringing new friends for the first time.
The dates for the Third Annual Labor Day Weekend Tango Getaway are September
3- September 6. Once again it will be held at the wonderful Reno Hilton in
Reno, Nevada. As many of you know, this is a great Argentine Tango weekend
combining classes and socializing at its best.
Three professional teaching couples will be giving daily classes. Daniela
Arcuri and Armando Orzuza are back for their third year. Guillermo Merlo and
Fernanda Ghi are making their first appearance in Reno, and of course
Alberto and Valorie will be teaching as well.
Friday, September 3 is check in. It's a good idea to book your airfare and
rooms now. The farther ahead you book, the better the room rate. Last year's
early birds got $59. per day for either single or double occupancy. The
Planet Tango group rate is $69., so it pays to book early and on your own.
Use whatever discounts you have - AAA, AARP, American Express, etc. The
rooms are large and generous for sharing. Call 1.800.648.5080, use code word
PTANGO. You can stop by and pick-up your name tags and schedule of
activities and meet your other Tango friends on Friday night. We have a
dance floor ready, and play some music if you'd like to drop in and work out
any cramped muscles caused by the journey to Reno.
Saturday, September 4, morning and afternoon are for classes. The classes
are suitable for any and all levels of dancers, whether this is your first
experience or you're a seasoned dancer. We make a huge effort to register an
equal number of men & women, couples and singles. Class size is limited in
number, so everyone gets individual attention. Private class time, and
specialized mini-workshop time is also factored in. Private class and mini
workshop rates are set by each teacher and are not included in the general
tuition. You are welcome and encouraged to bring your video cameras to
record a video notebook of the class material and the performances.
This year a no host coffee bar will be set-up for your convenience (with
pastries, fresh fruit, etc.) before the morning classes, so you don't have
to get up extra early to wait in the long lines at the coffee shop. A no
host lunch buffet will also be provided so your lunch hour can be more
relaxing (again there are so many long lines in all of the many excellent
restaurants on the hotel premises).
On Saturday night, we offer The Reno Tango Ball with a dinner and show. It
is open to the public ($50 per person, reservations required on advance
408.720.9506) and in the past tangueros from nearby Sacramento and the Bay
Area have donned their tux and feathers for a great night out. The show is
produced by the teachers.
Sunday, September 5 offers the same schedule and amenities. However, at the
Sunday night milonga/dinner, the performance is taken over by the students.
It's great fun! There is also a certificate presentation from the teachers
to the students. Video cameras are welcome at the social events.
This year, we are adding an extra morning of classes on Monday, September 6.
There will be group classes, as well as some extra time to schedule those
precious private hours with your teachers. So when you reserve your hotel
room, make sure to specify that you want a late check-out on Monday,
September 6.
A fabulous Tango Boutique will be set up as well. Clothing by Anne Leva, a
clothes designer residing in Santa Fe, shoes, CD's, videos and art work will
all be available Saturday, Sunday and Monday.
The regular tuition is $245 and it includes all group classes and both
dinners and dances. A late booking tuition of $295. will be enforced after
July 31,1999, so you may save up to $100 per couple that you can spend in
the fabulous casino or at the Tango Boutique!
We hope you will consider reserving space for the most enjoyable and
glamorous weekend of Argentine Tango anywhere.
Alberto
P.S. Regarding my announcement about this coming Saturday, July 24 regular
4th Saturday-of-the-month-milonga, when friends and admirers of Valorie Hart
will join me to celebrate La Mariposa's birthday (the B-day is actually July
21 for those who have been asking), a notorious leader from the east coast
asks if the disclaimer "No coconut cups bras please!" means "Does that mean
no bras is ok?"
and "Grass skirts optional" means "Hmmmm. No skirts either????"
Well, Mr. Exhibionist, this is America and these are the 90's so if you want
to show up with no bra and no skirt, go ahead and be my guest. ;-)
Thank you for visiting Planet Tango
http://www.hooked.net/~tangoman/
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:34:31 -0500
From: Stephen P Brown <Stephen.P.Brown @DAL.FRB.ORG>
Subject: Re: Group Lessons
Melinda has renewed an old discussion on Tango-L, but it is one that
remains relevant.
As Melinda has observed many instructors appear to teach group lessons
in tango primarily by demonstrating figures and variations. Viewed at
that depth, the lessons are probably of limited value to both leaders
and followers. Perhaps they are of somewhat greater value to a leader
because they may give him an opportunity to increase his vocabularly
of options (steps). The follower is simply exposed to the
possibilities and the opportunity to learn patience.
Students who are most concerned about improving technique can seek out
instructors such as Florencia Taccetti, Graciela Gonzalez, Luciana
Valle and Brooke Burdett who emphasize technique in their group
classes and explicitly treat figures as secondary.
Nonetheless, many instructors claim to have a deeper intent when they
teach figures. I attended a workshop taught by Fabian Salas about 15
months ago. He said that the figures he had selected to teach were
particularly good for developing leading and following skills because
the figures would not work if the lead and follow were not executed
properly. (In this case, a rotation of partners was very helpful to
the learning process.)
If instructors use figures to teach deeper skills in group classes,
the amount of attention that they give the students is of great
importance. Fabian's attention to students who were struggling
because they were not using proper techniques greatly contributed to
the learning process. If the instructor demonstrates a figure and
then sits down to sleep while the students go at it, the class may be
a disappointment.
If emphasis is on figures and the material is somehat new to the
leaders, however, the followers may have little opportunity to learn
even if the instructors are attentive. As Melinda writes:
>[It is] difficult also to practice balance while the man is
>struggling to master the lead and step and is most likely to be off
>balance (and pulling his partner off balance) until he gets it. At
>this point we >really are just helping them learn.
>[I]t would be twice as difficult for the woman to try to be
>practicing [her skills] while the man is temporarily off balance
>during HIS learning process. He is not focusing on balance, and
>posture, he is trying to get the technique and how to lead it.
>Balance comes after.
And those better able to execute the figures may be largely ignored in
a large group class. The students obviously struggling with the
material are likely to get the most attention, leaving little time for
the instructors to teach any refinements, embellishments or variations
to the better students. (Nito & Elba seem to be particularly good in
showing refinements, variations and embellishments to the students who
have have captured the basics of figures they teach.)
Students can enhance the learning process by working on variations of
the new figures or by switching back and forth between the new figure
and similar figures they already know. Chicho and Cecelia may have
had this in mind because according to Melinda "[T]hey did not just
demonstrate a step over and over. They wanted the students to
understand the movement, how it works, and what some of the variations
might be that we could figure out ourselves after the class."
Another possibility is for the better students to help the teachers
move in a direction they are already headed. Melinda wrote, "But my
favorite part was the little embellishments which Cecelia added to the
dance, but did not offer to the women during the class." Perhaps, if
Melinda had asked Cecelia how to execute the embellishments or
attempted to execute the embellishments with a cooperative partner,
Cecelia would have given the women some advice about how to execute
them. Another possibility is to ask the instructors probing questions
about technique.
--Steve de Tejas
P.S. Melinda also wrote:
>I agree we can learn the feel of a technique, and this is useful.
>But I still think, all things being equal, we should then see the men
>signing up for the women's workshops to help US work on balance,
>posture, execution, etc. (I'm not holding my breath! :-)
Unfortunately, this may be all too true an observation. At the 1996
Stanford Tango Week, I went to an embellishments class with my partner
with the idea that I would be there to be her partner and I might
learn a little something too. I was one of three guys in a class that
had 40-50 women. In all fairness to the other men at the Stanford
Tango Week, maybe they thought it was a women only class.
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:20:49 +0100
From: white95r <white95r @HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Group Lessons
Original Message -----
From: Stephen P Brown <Stephen.P.Brown @DAL.FRB.ORG>
Subject: Re: Group Lessons
> P.S. Melinda also wrote:
>
> >I agree we can learn the feel of a technique, and this is useful.
> >But I still think, all things being equal, we should then see the
men
> >signing up for the women's workshops to help US work on balance,
> >posture, execution, etc. (I'm not holding my breath! :-)
>
> Unfortunately, this may be all too true an observation. At the 1996
> Stanford Tango Week, I went to an embellishments class with my
partner
> with the idea that I would be there to be her partner and I might
> learn a little something too. I was one of three guys in a class
that
> had 40-50 women. In all fairness to the other men at the Stanford
> Tango Week, maybe they thought it was a women only class.
I was also at that tango week and I remember that particular class being
offered. My partner and I did not attend that class. But I would not have
attended it even if my partner had chosen to. Why? because the classes are
offered as "womens'" workshops. If the workshops were offered as classes for
couples or for leaders and followers, more men would attend. I would
certaily attend a class that concentrated on womens technique if it involved
the leaders participation. There is no way that such a class would not be of
great value to me as a leader.
I always thought that these workshops were somehow *only* for women and of
value to men who wanted to learn the woman's part of the dance. I realize
now that I was wrong.
Manuel
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:56:40 EDT
From: Timothy Pogros <TimmyTango @AOL.COM>
Subject: last tango
Usually, to end and evening Milonga, La Cumparsita is the last song played
for the night.
Saturday night July 31 will be the last night of tango at the Diamondback
Brewery here in Cleveland. Can any one suggest a tango that would be
appropriate for the closing of a milonga for ever. What should that last
tango be?
Tim Pogros (TimmyTango)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:11:11 -0500
From: Stephen P Brown <Stephen.P.Brown @DAL.FRB.ORG>
Subject: Re: Group Lessons
Previously I wrote:
>At the 1996 Stanford Tango Week, I went to an embellishments class with
>my partner ... I was one of three guys in a class that had 40-50 women.
Manuel responded:
>I was also at that tango week and I remember that particular class being
>offered. My partner and I did not attend that class. But I would not have
>attended it even if my partner had chosen to. Why? because the classes are
>offered as "womens'" workshops. If the workshops were offered as classes
>for couples or for leaders and followers, more men would attend. I would
>certaily attend a class that concentrated on womens technique if it
>involved the leaders participation. There is no way that such a class would
>not be of great value to me as a leader.
>I always thought that these workshops were somehow *only* for women and of
>value to men who wanted to learn the woman's part of the dance. I realize
>now that I was wrong.
Perhaps not enough information was provided to help us make the best
decisions.
Men were excluded from some of the classes specifically identified for
women at the Stanford Tango Weeks. This particular women's embellishments
class--taught by Nora Dinzelbacher--was not identified as for women only.
Given the subject, however, it was reasonable to expect men might be
excluded. I certainly considered the possibility I would be asked to
leave, and I was prepared to do so.
In addition, had I not previously learned the value to the leader of at
least understanding the woman's part, I might have had the expectation of
just being there for my partner and learning nothing in the class. But in
fact, I was asked to dance the man's part in the class, and did so with
about 15 different women. In doing so, I learned a lot about the man's
role in women's embellishments. Given the ratio of women to men, I may
have learned more than the women.
During that same week, Rebecca Shulman taught a very interesting class that
she called "Spirals." The class was designed to teach the rotation skills
necessary for executing turns. For men, the class helped develop
techniques to do enrosques, planeos, molinettes, etc., but only a few men
attended. Rebecca joked to me after the class that maybe she should have
called the class "Power and Torque" so men would know there was something
in it for them.
--Steve de Tejas
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:28:39 +0200
From: Helaine Treitman <treitman @GIOTTO.ORG>
Subject: Tango Hospitality in Roma and also in New York
Hi friends,
My very good friend Daniela di Monaco, with whom I often stay when I'm in
Rome, just informed me that she's offering Bed and Breakfast hospitality to
tango dancers who come to Rome. Following her description that I'm
forwarding to you, are also her comments about her friend's Lynn's Bed and
Breakfast for tango dancers who visit New York. Daniela is a delightful
person and wonderful tango dancer, who speaks fluent English and can help
you get the most from your visit to Rome. Contact her directly:
md0883 @mclink.it
(I have no financial interest.)
Good tangos to you all,
Helaine
--The International School of Art in Umbria, Italy
06057 Montecastello di Vibio (PG), Italy
Tel / Fax +39-075-8780223 US Voicemail 212-386-2705
http://www.giotto.org/ email: treitman @giotto.org
> TANGO IN ROME 1999 B&B
>
> 1// I recently moved to this new apartment located in northern part of
the
> city (Collina Fleming, Fleming Hill), large, comfortable, sunny with 3
> balconies large enough to have a candlelight dinner. This district is
> quiet, green, residential like with many, new, modern shops.
> Guests can enjoy a large twin bedded room, with colour TV, and a
> private bathroom (shower), complimentary breakfast; they can use the
whole
> apartment, "living" the house fully and sharing with me anyone of my
> activities, besides the Tango, whenever possible and friends, of course.
> I speak English fluently and French well enough, and can also help them
in
> booking theatre or other events. The area is easily linked by bus to the
> adjoining area of Prati where there is the metro which in 2-3 stops
> takes you right in the heart of the best shopping area: Via Condotti and
the
> Spanish Steps. The Monumental part of Rome is nearby.
> No children, no animals please (I already have a cat) and if possible
> non-smokers. Rate is 45 US dollars per person per night.
>
>
> For any information, contact, reservation, please call:
> Daniela di Monaco, Via Girolamo Boccardo, 27 - int 5 - ROMA
> Tel 0039 06 - 3340086 cell 0039 0335 8274781 -or during Saturday/Sunday
> 0039 0338 7673994 uff 0039 06 4743550/4825925
> e-mail: md0883 @mclink.it
>
>
a portion of this message was deleted at the request of the listed party
(rooms in new York)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:22:05 EDT
From: Jack Karako <JKarako @AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Metin Yazir workshop in Los Angeles
I can not claim that I can be impartial about this, since I am closely=20
associated with Metin now, but I will repeat what I used to say about him=20
when we were only friends;
Metin is an amzing dancer and even a better teacher. (He was invited to the=20
Whitehouse, when Clinton was hosting Carlos Menem, he also performed & taugh=
t=20
in numerous festivals including on Broadway, Germany and Turkey) I have not=20
met anyone who anlayzed Tango as much as he did and understands the moves.=20
The crucial point is that he can also convey the message to his students. Hi=
s=20
leassons are so groundbreaking , so fundamental as well as entertaining that=20
he himself becomes an addiction. If you love this dance you owe yourself a=20
lesson with him.
I don't want to write long, if you have access to the Tango-L archives you=20
may find some very nice postings about him.=20
To those who are interested, e-mail me, I can forward some e-mails from my=20
archives.
If you are around LA see the show and take a workshop or two, and jusge=20
yourself.
Regards
Jak
TangoVenus @aol.com Wrote:
Following the Hollywood Special Event, His Majesty: The Tango
Metin Yazir will be conducting
workshops on Sunday, July 25th.
Don't miss this opportunity to experience a lesson with Metin who is a grea=
t
dancer and teacher. This is his first trip to the West Coast. He has devoted
fans on the East Coast, Europe and on this list (anyone who knows him care =
to
comment on this ?)
Workshop Schedule:
1:30 - 3:00 Lead & Follow Technique
3:00 - 4:30 Milonga
4:30 - 6:00 Boleos/Sacadas
Price: $20 per workshop, $50 all three workshops
Location: Moro Landis Studio (Tel. 818/753-5081)
10960 Ventura Blvd, Studio City 91604
For Registration call:=20
Maritza Bodine
818/784-3131
Alberto De Llano
323/655-2224
**************************
Directions:
>From Los Angeles:
Take the 101 Freeway North (pass Universal Studios)
Exit Ventura Bl, turn right
Go approximately 1/4 mile, Moro Landis Studio is on the left.
>From the 405 Freeway
Take the 101 Freeway East - Los Angeles=20
to the 101 South - Hollywood Freeway
Take the 1st exit, Vineland, turn right
Take it to Ventura Bl, turn left
Moro Landis is on the right side, =BD block past the corner
>From the East - Glendale/Pasadena
Take the 134 Freeway West
Exit Lankershim Bl, turn left
Go to Ventura Bl, turn right, Moro Landis Studio is approximately 1/4 mile o=
n=20
the left
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:53:07 -0400
From: "Walter M. Kane" <oldzeid @FRONTIERNET.NET>
Subject: Re: last tango
Timmy Tango asked:
> Saturday night July 31 will be the last night of tango at the Diamondback
> Brewery here in Cleveland. Can any one suggest a tango that would be
> appropriate for the closing of a milonga for ever. What should that last
> tango be?
Abandonado?
Mi Noche Triste?
Nostalgias?
No! I've got it.....
Esta Noche me Emborracho
Saludos,
Tangringo
____________________
Walter M. (Tangringo) Kane
Harriman, NY
oldzeid @frontiernet.net
Visit us at Hudson Valley Tango
http://nycdc.com/hvtango
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:13:57 -0700
From: JC Dill <tango @VO.CNCHOST.COM>
Subject: Re: Group Lessons
On 04:11 PM 7/20/99 -0500, Stephen P Brown wrote:
>During that same week, Rebecca Shulman taught a very interesting class that
>she called "Spirals." The class was designed to teach the rotation skills
>necessary for executing turns. For men, the class helped develop
>techniques to do enrosques, planeos, molinettes, etc., but only a few men
>attended. Rebecca joked to me after the class that maybe she should have
>called the class "Power and Torque" so men would know there was something
>in it for them.
This is SO true.
When I was in high school, I participated in Lyceam courses (special
subject courses for students who wanted additional challenge). One year
they offered a course titled something like "advanced statistics" and only
about 3 people sign up. The following year they called it "how to gamble
and win", and the class was oversubscribed on the first day of
registration. Same material, just given a different title.
Perhaps Rebecca could get a win/win by calling the class "Spirals, Power,
and Torque" to indicate that there is something there for everyone. :-)
jc
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:11:43 -0400
From: "Walter M. Kane" <oldzeid @FRONTIERNET.NET>
Subject: Re: Group Lessons
From: JC Dill Tuesday, July 20, 1999 10:13 PM
>
> On 04:11 PM 7/20/99 -0500, Stephen P Brown wrote:
>
>
> >... only a few men
> >attended. Rebecca joked to me after the class that maybe she should
have
> >called the class "Power and Torque"...>
> ... offered a course titled something like "advanced statistics" and only
> about 3 people sign up. The following year they called it "how to gamble
> and win", and the class was oversubscribed ... Same material...different
title.
>
> Perhaps Rebecca could get a win/win by calling the class "Spirals, Power,
> and Torque" to indicate that there is something there for everyone. :-)
Right. Just what the workshop market needs: a little input from Madison
Avenue to further cement the relationship between students and teachers.
We'll sponsor a workshop on women's styling but advertise it to the men as
"How to tango and score." :-}
Of course, the other side of the coin is, "Fool me once...."
Tangringo
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Walter M. (Tangringo) Kane
Harriman, NY
oldzeid @frontiernet.net
Visit us at Hudson Valley Tango
http://nycdc.com/hvtango
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Tango Lyrics in Spanish and English at
http://www.hooked.net/~tangoman/letras.htm
Por el fomento y progreso del Tango
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End of TANGO-L Digest - 20 Jul 1999 to 21 Jul 1999
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