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Digest from 14 Dec 1999
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Subject: TANGO-L Digest - 14 Dec 1999 to 15 Dec 1999 (#1999-91)
There are 6 messages totalling 224 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Juan Carlos Copes (2)
2. TANGO-L Digest - 11 Dec 1999 to 12 Dec 1999 (#1999-88) (2)
3. "Tango at Sea" Cruise
4. Learning Tango
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:32:00 -0500
From: Eugenia Spitkovsky <euginas @EROLS.COM>
Subject: Juan Carlos Copes
Hello, list,
It is bothersome to me to read critics of a living legend. Mr. Copes has been dancing
and performing since 1955! That is 44 years of professional dancing, not social, like
most of us here, on the list. How many professional dancers do you know who do not have
precise script of their performances? Isidora Duncan, perhaps. Modern, individual
dancers?
Mr. Copes is a fabulous dancer without a need to be given browny points for his age. I
have not danced with many dancers who vary their steps continuously, maintaining clarity
of their movement at all times. Nor have I seen many (if any) demos where even
professional dancers use a great variety of steps. Most of us use 4 to 5 favorites
adjusting the intensity of movement to the rhythm of the music. Mr. Copes maintained his
style, clear movement, and beautiful dancing throughout decades, and definitely left his
mark on tango forever. His part in the new production of TANGO ARGENTINO is but another
opportunity to share his interpretation of tango with us, the audience.
As to TANGO ARGENTINO: it is a show that has a fabulous cast, but no spirit. Whether the
show's production was done too qiuckly, without due consideration given to all valuable
details, such as show's lighting, sound engineering, position of the orchestra on stage,
size of the theater, colors, acoustics, order of appearance of the performers, etc., but
"tango feeling" was not quite there... Not much passion was projected from the stage.
Eugenia
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:18:10 -0800
From: Mark Celaya <mark-joan-tango @JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: TANGO-L Digest - 11 Dec 1999 to 12 Dec 1999 (#1999-88)
Juan Carlos Copes is a genius deserving nothing but praise, honor, and
respect for
all that he has done for Tango. I don`t care if he only did the "8-count
basic" in all
his routines, I would enjoy it immensly.
Sincerely,
Mark Celaya
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 18:34:16 EST
From: CB Rose <CCBTango @AOL.COM>
Subject: "Tango at Sea" Cruise
I just returned from the "Tango at Sea" Cruise and would like to highly
recommend this cruise to anyone that:
- loves to tango and can't get enough
- wants to be instructed by the very best tangueros and tangueras
- meet exceptional people from all over the world
- is into having new fun-filled adventures
-tangoing on the deck of this beautiful ship with the wind blowing in
your hair
and new steps/moves created by the movement of the ship on the
"expressive" Atlantic ocean
-getting your hair braided on the beach on St. Thomas (incredible
beauty)
-smoking cigars at a quaint little cigar shop/bar
-dancing until your legs and feet feel like they can't make another
move, but
you are having too much fun to stop
-seeing the Caribbean by mountain bike, kayak, sail boat, sea plane,
etc.
- enjoys food and more food and..... more food
- enjoys laughter, smiles, good times
Yes, I will be one of the first to sign up for the 2001 cruise. And....
don't get me wrong... it wasn't perfect, but what in life is? For me it is
the attitude I bring to the event, party or whatever that creates the type of
adventure I will have. Therefore, I had a blast, met incredible people, has
exceptional instructors and private lessons and just got to tango, tango
tango.
CB
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 18:47:21 -0500
From: Laura Stevens <laura.stevens @CANOEMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: TANGO-L Digest - 11 Dec 1999 to 12 Dec 1999 (#1999-88)
Dear Mark:
FYI, the "genius" uses the 7-count basic, and you would be in for a surprise revelation if your partner danced just once with Juan Carlos or simply was led into a forward ocho.
"Not everything that shines is gold."
Laura Stevens.
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:57:56 -0600
From: Gloria <gloriously @MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject: Re: Juan Carlos Copes
Thank you to Mark and all the other listers who have
responded to my inquiry about Juan Carlos Copes.
The mail I have received has been lovely and most
appreciated.
For someone who is a novice at Tango I can not imagine
ever finding the delivery of Maestro Copes as dull
or repetitive. He dances with verve that thrills the very
soul.
His execution is impeccable and all Tango
dancers should attempt to emulate him in my humble
opinion. Why mess with perfection?
Glo
gloriously @mindspring.com
Original Message -----
From: "Mark Celaya" <mark-joan-tango @JUNO.COM>
To: <TANGO-L @MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: TANGO-L Digest - 11 Dec 1999 to 12 Dec 1999 (#1999-88)
> Juan Carlos Copes is a genius deserving nothing but praise, honor, and
> respect for
> all that he has done for Tango. I don`t care if he only did the "8-count
> basic" in all
> his routines, I would enjoy it immensly.
> Sincerely,
> Mark Celaya
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:25:33 -0800
From: Phil Seyer <Phil_Seyer @ILOVEMUSIC.COM>
Subject: Learning Tango
Here's an approach I use to help myself learn tango. I bought a small ditial
camera -- the kind I can easily hold while dancing.
Immediately after a lesson, I go off to a corner and record a brief comment
about the steps I've just learned. If the instructor hasn't named the step,
which often happens, I make up my own name -- something like "rock and turn"
or something more imaginative like "Angel's cross." I like to mention the
date just for fun. Then I video tape my own feet --so I get the same view on
tape that I would see looking down in the "real world." Later, I can easily
dance with the camera in my hand -- only this time I put it into play.
I need to make a special effort to label the tape with the date and "AT" so
I can easily find it later when I want to review it. Also, I think it would
help if I numbered each tape. Numbers help me see immediately if a tape is
missing or not in proper order when filed away. When I take a private
lesson sometimes I ask the instructor record his own feet and that of his
partner. (I'm lucky enough to take a lessons from a husband and wife.)
I also find it helpful and enjoyable to watch the tape at lunch time while
at work. I just plug earphones into the video camera so watching the video
doesn't disturb anyone. I stop the tape and sketch various positions of my
feet on paper. Then I can quickly review the steps without having to look
at the video.
==============
P.S. Regarding the "spam" I posted recently. Sorry. It was a mistake. I
didn't mean to post it to Tango-L, just to my friends and special customers!
Phil Seyer
www.ilovemusic.com
Original Message -----
From: Jacqueline William <williajm @BIOMED.MED.YALE.EDU>
To: <TANGO-L @MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: Tango at see
> I suppose you assume that people from the Bahamas do not subscribe to this
> list. I also wonder if you use the term "natives" to describe people from
> other countries you have visited.
>
> Jackie de Las Bahamas
>
> On Sunday, 12 Dec 1999, Manuel Patino wrote:
>
> > I do remember taking a rather cheesy and totally bogus "party cruise"
> while in the Bahamas. What a joke! an uncomfortable trip in a boat loaded
> with drunks with horribly loud, blaring, awful music (distorted noise
> coming from over-driven speakers) to a slummy looking beach where we were
> abandoned for several hours to be fed by surly natives some fairly plain
> chicken and rice dish (and not much of it) and apparently to swim and play
> in a sea weed filled, trashy, non sand, beach with out even benches to
> sit on or shelter from the sun, let alone clean bathrooms or any other
> amenity. Of course, they were very free with the rum punch (they served
> it continuously). I guess "caveat emptor" comes to mind.
> >
> > Manuel
> >
>
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