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There are 11 messages totalling 768 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Salida AND Memorized Figures 2. TANGO-L Digest - 11 Aug 1999 to 12 Aug 1999; LIDIA FERRARI inquiry 3. "light like a feather" 4. Tango in Amsterdam 5. Workshop with Cecilia Gonzalez 6. back to the basics 7. teachers in colorado 8. Origins of the Finnish Tango (2) 9. Help: Haris Alexiou's Tango for Evora 10. Tango in Israel


Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:56:22 +0000 From: Larry Carroll <larrydla @JUNO.COM> Subject: Re: Salida AND Memorized Figures JC Dill writes to Steve > It would be great if you could further flesh out your > syllabus of your first few classes and share it with other > instructors as an alternate to the 8CB for beginners we > all seem to be so...familiar with. The approach Steve uses sounds very similar to mine. And I ve already done exactly what you asked for. It has been available to everyone on the Internet in my online book "Argentine Tango Dancing" since December 1997. However, it s not just a syllabus. It s a complete course in beginning tango, with some intermediate material. That means that it doesn t just cover figures. It also deals with music, body control, tango style, leading & following, & floor navigation. Even more important, it tries to help students with what I consider the soul of the tango: improvisation & emotion. ____________________________________________________________ The book also covers the TANGO-L topic "Memorized Figures." It presents a simple way to break down most tango figures into simple patterns of no more than three individual steps. Then how to vary those simple patterns in a few simple ways (that we already know because we use them whenever we walk or run), and how to combine them. My purpose in introducing this system is to make learning complex figures a lot easier, so much easier (I hope) that students (& teachers) will spend less time on figures & more on other important topics. And to change the emphasis to CREATING our own new figures, rather than memorizing someone else s. I also, almost from the very first lesson, address women improvising, creating, adding to the dance. Some of that is in the various sections on adornos (decorations, embellish- ments), but I also cover other topics that relate to women s role in dancing. AND I D BE DELIGHTED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS SUBJECT. ____________________________________________________________ There are a couple of points I make in my book that I should mention here. I present an analytic system. So does the Fab Four of tango in their New Tango. Long before we came on the scene Mingo Pugliese did the same thing, & probably others have that I don t know about. (I seem to recall (Ruddy Zelaya?) translating part of a book an Argentine dance teacher wrote about 1920 who presented such a system. Anyone have more on this?) Another point: analytic systems are very useful. They are used in other dances (for example Skippy Blair s system in swing & other social dances). In athletics coaches have become famous because of the systems they created. In music there is the notation system & other analytic tools (structure of songs & symphonies, etc.) Looking at my Spanish textbooks, I see a half-dozen or so different analytic tools, starting with a diagram of letters & how they relate to sounds, going on to the way words change their sound when you combine them, verb endings, grammatical structure, etc. But all of these are training wheels for the mind. They help us understand complex subjects, learn them, & criticize ourselves when we make mistakes. But like training wheels, we abandon them once we ve mastered the material, once it becomes as much a part of us as breathing. (Though even in writing, where I m a sometimes professional writer & editor, I ll still sometimes have to stop & use an analytic tool to see where something is wrong or could be made better.) When we have a conversation, or dance, we can t use analytic tools. They always are, inevitably, over-simplifications, & much too slow. Instead we have to instantly synthesize some- thing out of parts, combine them into a seamless whole, create something that (even though it may be trivial or very similar to something previously said or danced) is unique in the history of the Universe. Most important, analytic systems can only hint at how we might use the tools the systems present to express emotion. It s not that analysis is the enemy of emotion. It s simply that emotion is the master, the boss of analysis, the painter who uses the palette that the analytic system lays out to easy reach. Larry de Los Angeles http://home.att.net/~larrydla ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.


Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:26:28 +0100 From: Victor Scarabino <v.scarabino @UNESCO.ORG> Subject: Re: TANGO-L Digest - 11 Aug 1999 to 12 Aug 1999; LIDIA FERRARI inquiry Salud Lidia, y a Paris no venis??? The best palce in Marseille, just give a look at: http://membres.tripod.fr/Angelito/carrement_tango.html Webmaster Leo Becker Victor Scarabino > > > Subject: Tango places in Positano (Italy) and Niza - Marseille > (France)?? > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:13:32 -0300 > From: Lidia Ferrari <lferrari @FEEDBACK.NET.AR> > > Hola tangueros. > Do you any know tango places in Positano, Italia o > Niza y Marsella en Francia?. We are in these citys > in August- September. > Muchas gracias. > Lidia Ferrari y Josi Luis Lussini > > lferrari @buenosairestango.com > lferrari @feedback.net.ar > lferrari @cbc.uba.ar > www.buenosairestango.com > >


Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:56:31 EDT From: Victor Crichton <victor_vsc @HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: "light like a feather" Joe Camper wrote: That makes a woman much heavier than she really is. A prime example would be Daniela Arcuri who feels so heavy when she is dancing with you, that you wonder why would any man want to dance with a woman who leans on her partner the way she does. Joe Camper. I know that a few other people have already responded to this post but I'm going to add my opinion because I believe that this very distasteful type of posting is extremely irresponsible. If you don't like a particular style of dancing and would like to express your opinion, that is fine. But if you are going to berate a specific person in a public forum then you better get your facts straight. And you better be prepared for an onslaught of strong criticism when the person you attack has as many people who respect and admire her as Daniela does. I have had many opportunities to dance with Daniela and to take both workshops and private lessons from her. She is always a joy to dance with and adapts herself beautifully to the chosen style of her partner. Her background in other forms of dancing gives her the type of control of her body and movements that most women can only dream of. I had the great fortune to attend a class that Daniela and Armando taught focusing on a specific choreography for people that wanted to perform. This choreography included a typical small lift where the women takes both feet off the ground to momentarily sit on the mans knee and then back onto the floor again. While executing this movement with Daniela she was truly as light as a feather. Her ability to control her own movement and her knowledge of her center and carriage made this movement effortless for me. I have also done this movement with tiny women who felt like they were going to break my back. If Daniela was not heavy in a movement like this I don't know how anyone can claim her to be heavy while dancing with her feet on the floor. If you felt that Daniela was heavy to dance with perhaps it is because you were moving awkwardly or without relation to the music and she was trying to keep you on time or encourage you to slow down. One's physical stature does not necessarily have a direct relationship to their strength or power. A perfect example of the opposite side of this equation can be found in Daniela and Armando's teaching partners in the upcoming Reno Tango weekend, Fernanda and Guillermo. Fernanda is another beautiful dancer who seems to defy the laws of physics. She could be described as quite slight but can be very strong. She, like Daniela, has a great deal of background in other dance forms and applies her knowledge and training to produce a controlled strength and power not expected by someone of her size. On another fortunate day I was presented with an opportunity to dance with Fernanda. As we walked across the floor I could feel her supplying the perfect amount of body resistance. The amount of resistance was constantly being adjusted as we took faster or slower steps or shorter and longer steps, but always the perfect amount. I could feel the control that she had within her body and against the floor. Though she was never heavy I felt that she could probably stop me anytime she wanted to, and I outweigh her considerably. To conclude I would just like to point out that Daniela and Fernanda choose to dance in totally different styles and have a distinctly different physical make up, yet both can be extremely light and flowing in one dance and then very strong and powerful in the next. There are many other women the same sizes as Daniela or Fernanda and every where else in the spectrum and they can all dance in different styles and with different amounts of strength and control depending on their experience but the one thing that should remain constant is that they all deserve to be treated with respect both on and off the dance floor, even in an environment like this faceless internet. Victor Crichton Tampa Bay, Florida _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com


Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:13:32 -0400 From: Francoise Audebrand <audebran @DITER.UMONTREAL.CA> Subject: Tango in Amsterdam Bonjour, Roger Sinha a choreographer, dancer of dance contemporary ... (http://www.cam.net/~diagram/en/rs/index.html) and a dancer of tango will be in Amsterdam from September 7th to September 14th for holidays. He would like to know if it's possible to sleep at a dancer'home. If you have place, you can reach him directly at : rsinha @netcom.ca Is some list of resources to help us to live at tango dancer's home when we travel around the world ? Thanks, Fran=E7oise


Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:18:37 -0400 From: Robert Blais <rblais12 @ODYSSEE.NET> Subject: Workshop with Cecilia Gonzalez This is a multi-part message in MIME format.


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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:28:22 -0500 From: Karen Whitesell <kglass @IPA.NET> Subject: back to the basics Dear all, We constantly hear, go back to the basics, go back to the basics! I just received a flyer from Roxanne in St Louis, and she is giving the basic class FREE to all enrolled in other tango classes. What a great idea! One of my favioite classes in Stanford was Nora Dinzelbacher's class on back to the basics. I was so impressed that most of the good dancers had come back to this class. This showed me a lot. Good dancers never out grow their need for basics. Roxanne is finally online, so your St Louis contact is STLTANGO @AOL.COM Still compiling the list of tango definitions. Dance one for me Karen


Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:56:06 -0600 From: Wayne R Williams <WAYNE_WILLIAMS @HP-LOVELAND-OM2.OM.HP.COM> Subject: teachers in colorado =20 =20 for any one who might be traveling to the denver / boulder area nex= t =20 week, aug. 25th through the 29th ... =20 Jessica Bijvoet will be giving a series of workshops on tango with = a =20 special focus on followers technique. =20 =20 i do have a financial interest ___________________________________ =20 Jessica embodies the rare combination of being both a phenomenal =20 dancer and a sensitive and highly skilled teacher - providing a uni= que =20 learning experience in the tango. Jessica was invited four years a= go =20 from her native Holland by Gustavo Nivera to go to Buenos Aires as = a =20 practice partner. There she immersed herself in the culture of Tan= go, =20 and while she studied with other Milongueros including Tete, Todaro= , =20 Pepito, Pablo Veron and many others, she counts Gustavo Nivera as t= he =20 person who has influenced her dance the most. =20 =20 While most of her time is currently dedicated to the tango - runnin= g a =20 tango school in Holland, Jessica also brings artistic sensibilities= =20 cultivated through professional work in art direction in the film a= nd =20 television industry, and extensive dance choreography to enrich her= =20 teaching. Coupled with a sharp intellect she is able to help both = =20 unlock the structure of the dance and to illustrate the path enabli= ng =20 students to create their own unique personality in the dance. =20 =20 =20 Fluent in English, Jessica creates a relaxed and fun learning =20 environment... "I always try to find a way to help people understand the structure= of =20 tango - so that they can develop their own combination of steps, an= d =20 therefore their own personality in tango as they develop their own = =20 personality in life. The tango is a special form of communication = =20 with your partner and expressing yourself in relation to the music.= =20 Therefore it is very important to understand your movements and to = be =20 able to control them and to understand the influence they have on t= he =20 other person. When a dancer is able to control his or her movement= s =20 in a relaxed and natural way the dance will be very pleasant for bo= th =20 partners..." =20 The Classes =20 Followers' Technique Series - Based on material from a successful =20 series taught in Amsterdam. This series focuses on foundational =20 elements for walking, ochos, giros, and voleos. Also, Adornments = for =20 women - Working with musicality and the freedom for women to improvise with= =20 different kinds of adornments in walking steps, ochos, turns, ganch= os, =20 voleos. = =20 Series Discount $50 =20 Tango de Salon Series - Fundamental walking steps and turns to mana= ge =20 and feel comfortable on a Crowded dance floor, working with musicality and improvising with =20 available space to dance - the delicacy of the close embrace. = =20 Series Discount $35= Introduction To Tango - Foundational elements of the Dance - walkin= g, =20 connection, and the music that unites. =20 Milonga - How to dance milonga comfortably and relaxed salon style = =2D =20 special flavor with double time musicality. =20 Series classes can be taken individually but are designed to build = =20 upon one another. for more information contact Wayne Williams (303) 641-0757 =20 =20 =20 =20 Class Location =20 Follower's technique I Turnverein 8/25 7:00 - 8:30 pm =20 =20 Tango de Salon I Turnverein 8/25 8:30 - 10:00 pm =20 =20 Follower's technique II VAC Studio 8/26 7:00 - 8:30 pm =20 =20 Tango de Salon II VAC Studio 8/26 8:30 - 10:00 pm =20 =20 Introduction to Tango Mercury Caf=E9 8/28 3:00 - 5:00 pm =20 =20 Follower's technique III Mercury Caf=E9 8/29 12:30 - 2:00 pm =20 =20 Milonga Mercury Caf=E9 8/29 2:30 - 4:00 pm =20 =20 =20 for more information contact Wayne Williams (303) 641-0757 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20


Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:19:57 EDT From: Richard deSousa <M1APORT @AOL.COM> Subject: Origins of the Finnish Tango Hello: Does anyone know of the origins of the Finnish tango? I saw the CBS 60 Minutes piece on the Finnish tango some weeks ago and remembered that they noted there was not much resemblance between the Argentine tango and the Finnish tango, but I don't recall any mention of the origins of the Finnish tango. Rich deSousa


Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:47:33 -0500 From: Tom Ronquillo <chitiger @MAIL.DAVE-WORLD.NET> Subject: Re: Origins of the Finnish Tango


E6C2633DA5E6A5927686C1C1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Richard deSousa wrote: > Does anyone know of the origins of the Finnish tango? ... Richard: There is an article by Pekka Gronow of the Finnish Broadcasting Company that tells quite a bit about Finnish tango. The article can be found at: http://www.vn.fi/vn/um/finfo/english/tangoeng.html#menu Tom (El Tigre) Ronquillo


E6C2633DA5E6A5927686C1C1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> Richard deSousa wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Does anyone know of the origins of the Finnish tango? ...</BLOCKQUOTE> Richard: <P>There is an article by Pekka Gronow of the Finnish Broadcasting Company that tells quite a bit about Finnish tango.  The article can be found at: <P><A HREF="http://www.vn.fi/vn/um/finfo/english/tangoeng.html#menu">http://www.vn.fi/vn/um/finfo/english/tangoeng.html#menu</A> <P>Tom (El Tigre) Ronquillo </HTML>


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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:58:58 -0600 From: Tom Stermitz <stermitz @CSN.NET> Subject: Help: Haris Alexiou's Tango for Evora Please help me find a web site that sells the CD of Haris Alexiou with Tango for Evora. In the US it seems that only a couple of her albums are available, but I recall someone who had found the CD with Tango for Evora on the net. Thanks. Tom Stermitz 2612 Clermont St Denver, CO 80207 Chautauqua Publishing / Ragtime Interiors "On-Line Arts & Crafts Movement Resource Directory." (303) 388 - 2560 stermitz @ragtime.org http://www.ragtime.org/ragtime/ http://www.tango.org/dance/


Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:20:46 -0400 From: Melinda Bates <tangerauna @EARTHLINK.NET> Subject: Tango in Israel This is a multi-part message in MIME format.


=_NextPart_000_00B7_01BEE83D.F83ABA40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am sending this to the list for Doron and Liat, a couple from Israel = we met at the May Tango Congress in Miami. So many of you have = experience in organizing events, it would be great for you to share that = with them. Will someone please write to them how to subscribe to the list - I have = forgotten! Just think how happy they will be to be able to discuss = tango with you all from around the world. I'm guessing there is not = much (besides them) in their whole country. Thanks Listeros! Melinda


Original Message -----=20 From: doron lida=20 To: tangerauna @earthlink.net=20 Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 1:08 PM Subject: doron and liat - tango in israel! We wanted to ask you an important question. We are working very hard on = promoting the tango in israel. We are thinkimg of bringing a small tango = show next year so that peopple will be able to see the argentine tango.=20 We dont mean the big shows like forever tango or tango passion - but = some local show - 2-3 couples and maybe 2-4 musicians. We have graet = places to do the shows and we can make a small festival.=20 We are telling you all this because we wanted to ask you if, by any = chance, you know about such a show anywhere in the world, or do you know = about someone who might know? We would be very thankful if ou could help us.=20 our e.mail - lidor1 @inter.net.il our fax - 972-3-6494286 our phone - 972-3-6497065 (studio) Thank you very very much and we hope to hear from you soon.=20 adios doron and liat.=20


=_NextPart_000_00B7_01BEE83D.F83ABA40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows-1255" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am sending this to the list for Doron = and Liat, a=20 couple from Israel we met at the May Tango Congress in Miami.  So = many of=20 you have experience in organizing events, it would be great for you to = share=20 that with them.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Will someone please write to them how = to subscribe=20 to the list - I have forgotten!  Just think how happy they will be = to be=20 able to discuss tango with you all from around the world.  I'm = guessing=20 there is not much (besides them) in their whole country.  Thanks=20 Listeros!<BR><BR>Melinda</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20 <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:lidor @inter.net.il" title=3Dlidor @inter.net.il>doron = lida</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:tangerauna @earthlink.net"=20 title=3Dtangerauna @earthlink.net>tangerauna @earthlink.net</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 12, 1999 1:08 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> doron and liat - tango in israel!</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We wanted to ask you an important = question. We are=20 working very hard on promoting the tango in israel. We are thinkimg of = bringing=20 a small tango show next year so that peopple will be able to see the = argentine=20 tango. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We dont mean the big shows like forever = tango or=20 tango passion - but some local show - 2-3 couples and maybe 2-4 = musicians. We=20 have graet places to do the shows and we can make a small festival.=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We are telling you all this because we = wanted to=20 ask you if, by any chance, you know about such a show anywhere in the = world, or=20 do you know about someone who might know?</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We would be very thankful if ou could = help us.=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>our e.mail - <A=20 href=3D"mailto:lidor1 @inter.net.il">lidor1 @inter.net.il</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>our fax - 972-3-6494286</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>our phone - 972-3-6497065 = (studio)</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you very very much and we hope to = hear from=20 you soon. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>adios</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>doron and liat. = </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>


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