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There are 12 messages totalling 431 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Tango Weekend in Cleveland
2. Nito & Elba in Austin, TX
3. Thanks to Colorado Tango Week Visitors
4. Italian Tango Roots
5. Tango Magic
6. SOLO TANGO IN EUROPE
7. El Indio y Mariana Workshop/Show in Denver Aug 12-15
8. Tango in Norther California???
9. "Heels First" or "Heels Last" tango walk
10. Correct lead into the cross
11. Rueda...fantastico!
12. "El Indio" and his style
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:37:21 GMT
From: Lili khayatt <justlili @HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Tango Weekend in Cleveland
I was particularly delighted to read Timothy Pogros comments in praise of
Fabian and Roxana from Toronto, Canada. They were my private teachers in
Toronto and I could never recommend them enough. They certainly are a
delightful couple as well as dedicated teachers who work very hard to bring
the delights of Tango to the class. They always gave their maximum, made
learning easy and inevitably brought the house down with their exquisite
performance. A few months ago, the Argentine daily, Clarin, had an excellent
write up about them. By the way Timothy, Fabian is not only a good
bandoneonista, he can sing a mean Tango too!
I can hardly wait for them to come here so that I can show them off in
Buenos Aires. Fabian and Roxana I love you and miss you!
>From the city of Borges, Evita and Gardel, saludo tanguero
Lili
TANGO*GUEST HOUSE*TOUR
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 07:27:31 -0700
From: "Austin Tango Connection (Chris Humphrey)" <atc @MODS.COM>
Subject: Nito & Elba in Austin, TX
SATURDAY & SUNDAY, AUGUST 14 & 15:
NITO & ELBA GARCIA, will be back in Austin for
two days of intense tango workshops. Private lessons
are also available for those who know the true value
of the dancing-with-Nito experience (see the lingering
smile?).
The workshop schedule follows:
Saturday:
10am-12 noon: Beg. I
1-3pm: Int. - paradas & ochos
3:30-5:30: Int./Adv. - figures with turns
Sunday:
10am - 12 noon: Beg. II
1-3pm: Int. - embellishments for leaders &
followers
3:30-5:30 pm: Int./Adv. - more turning figures
Cost: 1 class $35; 2 classes $64; 3 classes $90;
4 classes $100; 6 classes $132.
Location: Dolores's studio at 8611 Green Valley
(please park on Hyridge)
=46or further information, contact Dance International
at 512-323-2623.
In conjunction with Nito & Elba's visit, the Austin
Tango Connection will host their THIRD ANNIVERSARY
MILONGA at The Showroom in the University of Texas
Student Union Building, 24th at Guadalupe. For full
details, please visit our website at
http://www.mods.com/austintango/
chris humphrey
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Bailas como sos (you dance who you are)
--Nito Garcia, Argentine Tango Master
Austin Tango Connection
http://www.mods.com/austintango
512.480.9899 (English)
512.794-2922 (Espa=F1ol)
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:37:48 -0600
From: Tom Stermitz <stermitz @CSN.NET>
Subject: Thanks to Colorado Tango Week Visitors
Thanks to everyone who made the Colorado Tango Week a success.
We had visitors from a number of cities and as far away as Germany.
The local dancers transformed themselves into real milongueros for
the week, some of them refusing to go home at closing time. Extasis,
our local tango orchestra, added a piano and bass for Friday and Dan
Diaz came on Saturday to give us a quintet with two bandoneons. The
dancing was our best ever. You could feel the energy and passion
sweeping across the room.
The Tango Mujer performances were very good, modern dance with much
tango vocabulary rather than the traditional "tango history" or "pimp
& prostitute" show. I particularly liked the piece in which Brigitta
& Fabienne danced a most sentimental close-embrace dance while
Rebecca portrayed the elf-like spirit of the dance. The piece closed
with Fabienne reaching longingly after the spirit as the feeling
dissipated. Another fun performance was Angelika and Brigitta as two
cleaning ladies dancing a tango with their brooms to Bizet's Carmen.
Valeria danced tango with her shadow on a brick wall...upside down.
Local reviews of Tango Mujer were favorable, except for one which was
so bad it was good. He was shocked, just shocked at women dancing
with women on stage! It just isn't right!
Rebecca and Brigitta in Seattle: "Dancing Pugliese"
Rebecca Shulmann and Brigitta Winkler continue on to Seattle for a
big workshop on Musicality. Their dance styles are quite different,
yet they work so well together. Rebecca does boleos that never stop;
Brigitta is one of the grandmothers of Tango in Germany, (almost 20
years of tango). Both of the women work in many styles, including the
exploration of all the new vocabulary of the Gustavo school. Brigitta
is well-known for her close-embrace dancing.
Brigitta studied Mind-Body Centering, which looks at the way the mind
works with the body. She has a truly magical way of letting your own
body teach itself technique, which arrives with relaxation rather
than a bunch of tense details.
In the musicality classes Rebecca shows how the music is constructed
and the different rhythms and beats. Brigitta explores how tango
feels, speaking of the "colors" of tango: Flowing, Staccatto, Slow,
Fast, Dense, Light...
Tom Stermitz
2612 Clermont St
Denver, CO 80207
Chautauqua Publishing / Ragtime Interiors
"On-Line Arts & Crafts Movement Resource Directory."
(303) 388 - 2560
stermitz @ragtime.org
http://www.ragtime.org/ragtime/
http://www.tango.org/dance/
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:49:40 -0800
From: Eric Larson <aneml @UAA.ALASKA.EDU>
Subject: Italian Tango Roots
One of the many roots of tango came from the traditional dances of
Italian immigrants to Buenos Aires. I found a lead about some of the
folk dances that Italians may have brought with them to Argentina.
A recent movie titled "Pizzicata" shows both the pizzica and
tarantata Italian folk dances.. A reviewer describes the dances as
follows: "The joyous pizzica is an amorous and festive dance, set to the
percussive beat of tambourines, and bearing a resemblance to Greek folk
dancing. The tarantata is a mad dance of grief and longing, and within
the story of "Pizzicata" there is room for both."
I have not yet seen the film and would appreciate hearing the
impressions of others who have seen the dancing in the film. I am also
curious if readers on this list know more about the history of these
Italian folk dances and whether they were danced in Buenos Aires in the
late 1800's.
Thanks
Eric Larson
aneml @uaa.alaska.edu
P.S. The remainder of the review of the file is available at
http://www.nytimes.com/library/film/020399pizzicata-film-review.html
(You'll need to register your name and email address with the New York
Times to enter the site). There is more information about the film at
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0126612
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:52:36 -0700
From: Al & Barbara <batango @SLIP.NET>
Subject: Re: Tango Magic
Dear List,
I think of myself as a conservative in matters of social tango, though
hopefully not a dinosaur, e.g. I have no problem (is it any of my business,
if I did?) with women--or men--dancing together, nor with various dance
styles as long as they work in a group situation. I tend to object, in the
milonga only, to unworkable dance styles, undanceable music in which I
include most Mariano Mores and Salgan as well as Piazzolla), to d.j.'s who
play only one type of music, and to fantasia on the dance floor. I also
have a little trouble with the idea that one must never/must always
teach/use the D8CB. Lighten up, folks !
However, Tango Magic is a performance piece, and one which any tango
aficionado should at least see to judge for him/herself. I am very happy to
have seen it, and watched it for the third time to notice some details
before writing this. The music of Pablo Zeigler & Co. and Piazzolla, and the
dancing, are, IMHO, real tango in a contemporary concert style. I liked the
changes in tempo and feeling especially. Most of the dancers in Tango Magic
are practicing milongueros, as well as top-notch professionals--they know
what tango is, and the distinctions between the milonga and the stage.
The footwork is almost all pure tango. Diego di Falco, the choreographer
(with his partner Carolina Zokalski), has been going to milongas since
childhood; Their dance to Maria Grana's rendering of Volver would be
appropriate in any not-too-crowded milonga; their footwork throughout
contains nothing outside of the tango vocabulary.
We first admired Guillermo Merlo in one of Copes' shows in Buenos Aires
about 10 years ago--he is an outstanding dancer, as is Fernanda, his new
partner. Sandor and Beverly were, respectively, adagio and ballet dancers
before concentrating on tango, and one of their numbers highlights these
skills, but they seem to have made the leap ;-) to tango very well. This
touch of adagio (also in Forever Tango) is the only departure from classic
(theatrical) tango besides the balletic piece to Oblivion by Guillermina
Quiroga and Roberto Reis, who are both, BTW, fanatic milongueros, each with
years of training in several disciplines.
Actually, I wonder if the criticism of Tango Magic is primarily based
on a dislike of the music, as the dancing is certainly as close, or closer,
to the spirit of tango as in any other show on the road. To exclude
Piazzolla, Zeigler, etc from tango because it is not written for social
dancers would be like excluding Coltane from jazz because he doesn't play
Dixieland.
Best, Barbara Garvey
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:03:12 -0300
From: Janis Kenyon <jantango @FEEDBACK.NET.AR>
Subject: SOLO TANGO IN EUROPE
For those of you who are regular viewers of SOLO TANGO in Europe, here is an
explanation of the problem in transmission of the program from Juan Fabbri:
Dear Janis:
Following our conversation last night at El Morocco, what happened with our
signal in Europe was that a technical problem put out of order some
satellite capacity in the transponder Solo Tango was in. Because we were one
of the latest signals added to this, and according with services contract
signed, they make a redistribution of capacity and now we are waiting that a
new satellite capacity is given to us. All this cybernetic situation gets
more complicated because we are emitting the signal directly from Buenos
Aires simultaneously, and a downlink and uplink is done in Europe to the Hot
Bird 2 satellite. ST will stay on Hot Bird 2 satellite. The satellite
operator (Eutelsat) promises us that this will take just few days more. In
fact can be back in the air in any moment. We are not getting out of
Europe, all the opposite [on the contrary], not only we will be there but
also now going to Japan and Australia ... besides a new development that
we are making in USA with TCI.
It will help us if the viewers of Solo Tango in Europe press Eutelsat
claiming to have ST back soon. Will get e-mail address of department in
charge and will get back to you.
Hope is clear and by this also want to give to all Tango addicts to the list
my best regards and advise them that I am ready to answer any question in my
mail address. stango @rcc.com.ar
Kisses
Juan Fabbri
Solo Tango
C.E.O.
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:14:29 EDT
From: Michele Benigno <Mexben @AOL.COM>
Subject: El Indio y Mariana Workshop/Show in Denver Aug 12-15
Dear Fellow Tangueros/as,
El Indio and Mariana Dragone of Buenos Aires will be in Denver for a series
of workshops and shows August 12th - August 15th. Below is their schedule.
August 12th - Boulder at the Pearl St. Studio
730pm to 9pm - Basis Tango Movement - The Essentials for all levels
August 13th - Denver at the Denver Turnverein 1570 Clarkson
9pm - 2am Milonga, Show and Gran Sorteo (Drawing for Prizes including 2 RT
Tickets on American Airlines)
Sponsored by American Airlines, KBNO Radio "Que Bueno" and Mission Foods
August 14th - Denver at the Mercury Cafe 2199 California
12n - 1pm - Beginners Class - no experience necessary
130pm - 3pm - Tango Tools for Intermediates
330pm - 5pm - Milonga al Indio y Mariana
August 15th - Denver at the Denver Turnverein 1570 Clarkson
12n - 1pm - Beginners Class - no experience necessary
130pm - 3pm - Building on Tango Tools for Intermediate/Advanced
330pm - 5pm - More Milonga al Indio y Mariana
For more information Call Michele Benigno at 303 333 2465 or Andrea Wagner at
303 860 9202. Come join us in Denver!
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:13:44 -0700
From: Roger Pick <pick @OLYMPUS.NET>
Subject: Tango in Norther California???
My wife and I will be camping while wandering in Northern California
from 14 August through 19 August and we are looking for places to dance
(clubs, milongas, empty spaces with wood floors, almost anything) or
classes/workshops. We will be going no further South than about St.
Helena and from roughly I5 to the Coast.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Reply to:
Roger Pick
pick @olympus.net
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:33:01 -0700
From: Joe Camper <joe.camper @JUSTICEMAIL.COM>
Subject: "Heels First" or "Heels Last" tango walk
Dear List,
I hear that some instructors are teaching their students to walk "heels first". I don't know if these teachers are from Argentina or not, but I doubt it.
I've been to Buenos Aires and have taken lessons with various teachers. It is true that sometimes the old masters turn on their heels, but they clearly land on the balls of their feet when walking forward or backwards. It's a fact, regardless of the style they dance - from Zotto to Tete, from Misse to Pupy, from young Pugliese to old Pugliese, and so on ...
It seems to me that various Tango figures and steps can be used in other dances and vice versa, but what identifies the Argentine Tango most clearly is the Argentine walk. If you start confusing students with the "ballroom" walking version of the dance, what will be next?
Finally, I don't think anybody needs to be taught walking "heels first" - we all do it naturally.
Happy tango walking!
Joe Camper.
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:17:54 -0400
From: Stella Robinson <stella_robinson @EMAIL.COM>
Subject: Correct lead into the cross
Hi, all!
I am just a beginner and having occasional problem knowing when to cross.
With some men I have no problem following, because they clearly position
their body outside of my right shoulder and give me plenty of time and space
to do the cross. But other guys are pushing me slightly to the side with
their right hand.
What is the correct way? By "correct" I mean the most widely acceptable way
they do it in Argentina.
Many thanks,
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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:32:22 -0400
From: Kathleen Seymour <knsandjts @HOME.COM>
Subject: Re: Rueda...fantastico!
Boleos @AOL.COM wrote:
> Yes, I believe in the preservation of the Argentine Tango in it's authentic
> forms but why not have a little fun with Rueda too...it has brought a lot of
> new dancer's to Salsa because it's just plain fun so I believe it is a good
> thing for tango too.
Ditto, ditto, ditto. Yes, why must we always be so serious about
Tango. I have been known to break out laughing on the dance floor
because......... it's fun! So why shouldn't I show this side of passion
as well.
And who do we think we are, anyway....criticizing the very people who
brought us to this wonderful dance in the first place. People like
Daniel Lapadula and Fabian and Pablo Veron, people we still have so
much to learn from. Kind of like biting the hand that feeds you,
wouldn't you say?
-Kathy
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 21:44:25 -0700
From: Joe Camper <joe.camper @JUSTICEMAIL.COM>
Subject: "El Indio" and his style
Does anyone know who influenced El Indio the most?
His style seems to be a unique mixture of close embrace and the "new tango". He is obviously a "street dance" of great talent.
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