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There are 12 messages totalling 577 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Re. Salida (2)
2. Tango Magic on KQED
3. RV: News from Bs AS
4. Searching for tango in or near Norfolk....
5. His Majesty: The Tango/....Hollywood Special Event
6. Gala Tango Event in Atlanta
7. FW: Argentina Tango Review
8. New U.S. Source for Zotto/Godoy Videos
9. Norte=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=f1o_=28tango_nuevo=29_at_the_Panamerican_Games?=
10. Tosca CA tour
11. Salida
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 07:31:54 -0500
From: Stephen P Brown <Stephen.P.Brown @DAL.FRB.ORG>
Subject: Re. Salida
JC Dill wrote:
>My proposal is that the 8CB be initially taught as:
>1) side step to the outside (right foot for leader, left foot for follower)
>2) step forward (back for follower), positioning follower to the leader's
>right
>3) step forward (back for follower)
>4) step forward (back for follower)
>(2,3,4 become a tango "walk", can be angled to reestablish Line Of Dance if
>the previous move left the leader heading in a bad direction, and can of
>course be extended into a longer walk)
>5) leader closes feet and squares the frame (leading the cross by bringing
>follower in front), follower crosses
>6) leader steps forward, (follower steps back)
>7) side step to the outside (right foot for leader, left foot for follower)
>8) close (with weight change) for both
>Then, AFTER they learn the "basic" above, they can learn how to "enhance"
>it, and by doing so they are taught to do a weight change on 1 and a step
>to the inside on 2. They are taught how to alternate between these two
>different versions of this "practice basic", and then to use the first
>one whenever they find themselves heading into the center of the floor.
>Only after mastering both of these variations are they taught that they may
>also take a step backwards on 1 (and toward the inside of the floor on 2),
>but only when floor conditions permit this move to be used with good dance
>floor etiquette.
>Am I overlooking any drawbacks to this idea as a teaching tool?
JC's proposal ignores Alberto Paz' comment that the traditional way a woman
waits for the man to approach naturally results in the couple starting with
a side step to the man's left (woman's right) along the line of dance.
JC's proposal may also perpetuate use of the eight-count basic and other
memorized figures because it puts so much emphasis on learning variations
of the eight-count basic. I would rather see the eight-count basic taught
as something that can be constructed from more elemental pieces of the
dance--that is walks in various directions.
Personally, Susan and I teach students to shift weight to the music, walk
in line, walk outside, pause, walk to the cross, and to do forward ochos
before we teach them any side steps. After we teach them side steps, we
show them how some of the elements can be put together to construct an 8CB
with weight shift (rock step). We then explain that some teachers call
this combination "the basic."
I think our approach deemphasizes the 8CB because students learn the
forward ocho first which is more exciting. It also helps the beginning
student to develop walking skills and to recognize that tango can be
composed from smaller elements of movement rather than more elaborate
figures that must be slavishly memorized. By the time the student gets to
the 8CB, they find it much easier to execute than if it was the first thing
they were to learn--which seems to lessen the degree to which they lock
into it as a pattern to repeat.
--Steve de Tejas
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 00:53:57 EDT
From: Frank Sasson <FRSASSON @AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Tango Magic on KQED
That is Fernanda Ghi and Guillermo Merlo, a fabulous couple who maintain the
essence of the old masters mixing in Modern Tango.
Their choreography is unique.... Don't miss it
Frank (Miami)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:59:01 -0300
From: "Lic. Sebastian de la Rosa" <delarosa @CIUDAD.COM.AR>
Subject: RV: News from Bs AS
Los maestros Julio Balmaceda & Corina de la Rosa, han retornado a Buenos
Aires luego de realizar una extensa gira por Europa y US.
Los mismo permanecer=E1n en la capital Argentina hasta el mes de Octubre,=
mes
en el cual partir=E1n nuevamente hacia el viejo continente hasta fines de=
l mes
de Diciembre.
Durante los meses de Agosto y Septiembre dictaran en Buenos Aires las
siguientes clases:
Todos los Jueves de Agosto de 20:30 hs a 22:00hs
SEMINARIO DE VALS en Ni=F1o Bien. Humberto 1' 1462 - CF
Viernes de 21:00 a 22:30
Clases regulares en La Galer=EDa del Tango Argentino - Boedo 722 - CF
NIVEL: Principiantes - Intermedios
S=E1bados de 18:30 a 20:30
Clases regulares en Club Almagro - Medrano 522 - CF
NIVEL: Principiantes - Intermedios
Domingos de 20:30 a 22:30
Clases regulares en La Galer=EDa del Tango Argentino - Boedo 722 - CF
NIVEL: Avanzados
Atentamente,
TANGO AL SUR
Francisco Beiro 3647
(1636) Olivos
Buenos Aires
Rep. Argentina
FAX: (5411) 4790 - 0576
E-mail:info @tangoalsur.com.ar
Http://www.tangoalsur.com.ar
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 01:05:38 -0400
From: Carol Chung <cac15 @PO.CWRU.EDU>
Subject: Searching for tango in or near Norfolk....
Hello there,
I started learning the tango in Cleveland, OH, and would like to
continue when I move to Norfolk, VA. Does anyone out there know of places in
the Virginia Tidewater area where one can continue learning and dancing? I
hope there's at least SOMEONE out there who knows. Thanks!
Carol Chung
p.s. Hopefully, I have the format right now.
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:32:34 -0700
From: Monica Ortiz <monica @IHATECLOWNS.COM>
Subject: His Majesty: The Tango/....Hollywood Special Event
Did anyone on the list attend the tango show in Hollywood on Saturday July 24?
If so, please share your impressions of the performances?
Any future events planned in Hollywood?
Thanks,
Monica.
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:53:37 -0400
From: barbf02 @IBM.NET
Subject: Gala Tango Event in Atlanta
Dear List,
On behalf of the Atlanta Tango community I would like to announce:
Trasnochando Tango Gala
Labor Day weekend, Atlanta, GA
Milongas with Live Music
Tango Workshops with Carlos Gavito
Don't make any Labor Day Plans!! Come dance the weekend away in
Atlanta.
There will be two evenings of LIVE TANGO MUSIC with a Miami Tango Trio
featuring Alfredo Pedernera on bandoneon, Hector Pineda on Bass and Juan
Carlos de Mingo on Piano (Sat. Sept 4 and Sun. Sept 5). There will also
be
dance workshops throughout the holiday weekend with Carlos Gavito from
Forever Tango. You definitely do not want to miss it.
If you are from out-of-town, several Atlanta tangueros/as have offered
spare rooms for housing, so think about spending labor day weekend in
Atlanta.
More information will soon be posted on the Tangueros Atlanta website:
http://www.tango-atlanta.com/ttoc.htm
I have no financial interest in this event.
Best Regards,
Barbara Ferrigno
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:39:28 -0400
From: "Hogan, Ray (G.R.)" <rhogan1 @FORD.COM>
Subject: FW: Argentina Tango Review
> Amy Calio, President of the Latin & Argentine Tango Club of Detroit, is
> producing Argentina Tango Review for the first time in Miami Beach. Her
> phone number in Miami is in the attached note. Unfortunately, there is an
> error in the number. Her phone number is Miami is (305) 892-8612. Please
> call her for information and reservations.
>
> For tickets to Argentina Tango Review it may be better to contact the
> Jackie Gleason Theater directly, rather than going through Ticketmaster.
> There is a surcharge for each ticket from Ticketmaster. The phone number
> of the Jackie Gleason Theater is
> (305) 675-7300. They will accept Visa/Master Charge.
>
> Ray Hogan
> RHOGAN1 rhogan1 @ford.com
> 4R14 PLHQB 313/59-44176
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hogan, Ray (G.R.)
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 2:45 PM To:
> 'floridatango @lists.best.com'
> Subject: Argentina Tango Review
>
> There will be four performances of Argentina Tango Review at the Jackie
> Gleason Theater in Miami Beach on September 10, 11, and 12. Performances
> will be at 8:00pm each of the three nights and on Sunday at 3:00pm.
> Tickets can be purchased through Ticketmaster, www.ticketmaster.com or
> (305) 358-5885. Tickets can also be purchased at Sears, Ricky's Records,
> Spec's Music, and select Publix Super Markets. Prices are $40, $32, and
> $28.
>
> Argentina Tango Review is two hours of the world's most passionate and
> aggressive dancing. The audience is electrified and captured by the
> atmosphere of TANGO and the fascinating display of a variety of emotions,
> love, hate, ecstasy, and great passion. Argentina Tango Review has
> fascinated sold-out audiences throughout South America, Europe, and the
> Far East. Critics call Argentina Tango Review. "The best ever seen in
> Tango". The Show features renowned Maestro Armando Calo and his
> sensational orchestra, "De Las Estrellas" along with 2 singers and 12
> dancers of Tango, Milonga, Vals Crusado, Bombo, and Malambo.
>
> For a special evening join "De Las Estrellas" for a Gala Buffet (Argentine
> Style) and a Milonga at the Polish American Club on Saturday night,
> September 11. The Polish American Club is located at 1250 N.W. 22nd
> Avenue in Miami. Armando Calo will direct a special selection of his own
> music, along with some of the classics from the repertoire of his
> unforgettable brother, Miguel Calo. Don't miss this unique opportunity!
> Tickets are in limited supply. Dinner and dance is only $30. Dinner
> will be served at 11:00pm. Dancing will continue until 5:00am. Recorded
> music will be played during the orchestra breaks. Free, attended parking.
>
> For further information call any of the following numbers;
> (305) 892-6612 (305) 268-9740 (305) 595-7464 (954) 986-0261
>
>
> Ray Hogan
> RHOGAN1 rhogan1 @ford.com
> 4R14 PLHQB 313/59-44176
>
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 15:07:24 -0500
From: Stephen P Brown <Stephen.P.Brown @DAL.FRB.ORG>
Subject: New U.S. Source for Zotto/Godoy Videos
Planet Tango now imports and sells the all five videos from the highly
acclaimed series, Asi se baila el tango, taught by Osvaldo Zotto and
Mora Godoy on Solo Tango television.
The five video series starts with the most basic figures and
progresses to intermediate and advanced figures best suited to more
accomplished Tango. The instruction follows closely the style of
the late master Antonio Todaro, and production values are high.
Instruction is in Spanish.
The special order price is $35 each or $160 for the set of five,
including s&h from Planet Tango, 1111 W. El Camino Real, Suite 109,
Sunnyvale, CA 94087. Telephone: 408.720.9506. Fax: 408.732.2690
(Allow up tp four weeks for delivery).
With best regards,
Steve de Tejas
For my complete and independent listing--with reviews and ratings--of
instructional videos for Argentine tango readily available in North
America please visit Planet Tango:
<http://www.hooked.net/~tangoman/revu-1.htm>
I have no financial interest in Planet Tango and the management of
Planet Tango exerts no control over the content of my reviews and
ratings.
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:23:02 PDT
From: Eva Varon <e_varon_m @HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Re. Salida
I think you misexplained salida movement
Such as;
1. First step is always forward with left foot for the follower and back
step with left foot for the leader.
2. Second step is the step right foot for the follower and the left foot for
the leader and the rest is all ok for Salida.
Eva
JC Dill wrote:
>
> >My proposal is that the 8CB be initially taught as:
> >1) side step to the outside (right foot for leader, left foot for
>follower)
> >2) step forward (back for follower), positioning follower to the leader's
> >right
> >3) step forward (back for follower)
> >4) step forward (back for follower)
> >(2,3,4 become a tango "walk", can be angled to reestablish Line Of Dance
>if
> >the previous move left the leader heading in a bad direction, and can of
> >course be extended into a longer walk)
> >5) leader closes feet and squares the frame (leading the cross by
>bringing
> >follower in front), follower crosses
> >6) leader steps forward, (follower steps back)
> >7) side step to the outside (right foot for leader, left foot for
>follower)
> >8) close (with weight change) for both
>
> >Then, AFTER they learn the "basic" above, they can learn how to "enhance"
> >it, and by doing so they are taught to do a weight change on 1 and a step
> >to the inside on 2. They are taught how to alternate between these two
> >different versions of this "practice basic", and then to use the first
> >one whenever they find themselves heading into the center of the floor.
>
> >Only after mastering both of these variations are they taught that they
>may
> >also take a step backwards on 1 (and toward the inside of the floor on
>2),
> >but only when floor conditions permit this move to be used with good
>dance
> >floor etiquette.
>
> >Am I overlooking any drawbacks to this idea as a teaching tool?
>
>JC's proposal ignores Alberto Paz' comment that the traditional way a woman
>waits for the man to approach naturally results in the couple starting with
>a side step to the man's left (woman's right) along the line of dance.
>
>JC's proposal may also perpetuate use of the eight-count basic and other
>memorized figures because it puts so much emphasis on learning variations
>of the eight-count basic. I would rather see the eight-count basic taught
>as something that can be constructed from more elemental pieces of the
>dance--that is walks in various directions.
>
>Personally, Susan and I teach students to shift weight to the music, walk
>in line, walk outside, pause, walk to the cross, and to do forward ochos
>before we teach them any side steps. After we teach them side steps, we
>show them how some of the elements can be put together to construct an 8CB
>with weight shift (rock step). We then explain that some teachers call
>this combination "the basic."
>
>I think our approach deemphasizes the 8CB because students learn the
>forward ocho first which is more exciting. It also helps the beginning
>student to develop walking skills and to recognize that tango can be
>composed from smaller elements of movement rather than more elaborate
>figures that must be slavishly memorized. By the time the student gets to
>the 8CB, they find it much easier to execute than if it was the first thing
>they were to learn--which seems to lessen the degree to which they lock
>into it as a pattern to repeat.
>
>--Steve de Tejas
>
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 22:41:49 -0400
From: Pierre-Paul Provencher <arcana @SONETIS.COM>
Subject: Re:
Norte=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=f1o_=28tango_nuevo=29_at_the_Panamerican_Games?=
Hello List
I wrote:
>Norteno is a tango nuevo quintet based in Ottawa/Hull (Canada), =3D
>consisting of Pierre-Paul Provencher (bandoneon), Laurie Rosewarne =3D
>(piano), Sylvie Rocheleau (violin), Garry Elliott (guitar), and =3D
>Nicolas Tremblay (couble bass).
>
>We will be performing at the Panamerican Games in Winnipeg (Canada) =3D
>on July 27 on the open-air stage at The Forks. The program consists =3D
>of works by Astor Piazzolla.
The trip was wonderful! We performed on a huge stage at the Forks =
(which is a sort of out door park, with an interesting market, =
restaurants, etc. We performed as part of a festival associated with =
the Pan Am Games. There are performances every night until August 8. =
Each evening includes performances by provincial, national and =
international performers. Each performance was filmed (5 cameras), =
and the images projected onto a giant screen beside the stage. We =
will be getting a copy of the video after the festival is over. I'm =
not sure how many people attended, but the organizers had informed us =
before that it would probably be about 20,000.
We also had the pleasure of meeting the Argentinian trio TANGOMARIA =
(Maqui on piano, Teresa on cello and Paula on bandoneon), who gave a =
wonderful performance after us. I'm looking forward to hearing their =
CD. The dancers Luciana y Jose performed with Tangomaria.
Thanks to the Embassy of the Republic of Argentina in Ottawa (and =
especially Mr. Ortiz), as well as the Conseil des arts et des lettres =
du Qu=E9bec.
Laurie Rosewarne
for Norte=F1o
Ottawa/Hull, Canada.
oooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ooooooooooooooooooooooooo ARCANA oooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ooooooooooooooooooooooooo =
oooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Laurie Rosewarne & Pierre-Paul Provencher
5, rue de Menton, Gatineau (Qu=E9bec), CANADA J8T 5M7
email: arcana @sonetis.com
or contact @norteno.qc.ca
Web Site: http://www.norteno.qc.ca
http://www.sonetis.com/~arcana/arcana.html
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:54:13 -0500
From: "Austin Tango Connection (Glenn Meter)" <atc @MODS.COM>
Subject: Tosca CA tour
Tosca, a tango band from Austin TX, will be having a short California tour
at the end of the month.
Scheduled dates:
Thurs Aug 26th - Viper Room in Los Angeles
=46ri Aug 27th - Jack's Sugar Shack in Los Angeles
Sat Aug 28th - San Bertolo Theater Los Olivos (near Santa Barbara)
Sun Aug 29th - Cafe du Nord in San Francisco
Tosca plays nuevo tango's of their own composition, as well as a few
Piazzolla covers.
*********
Austin Tango Connection has no financial interest in their tour. We just
like dancing to their music and wish them well on their tour.
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Austin Tango Connection * atc @mods.com * http://www.mods.com/austintango
tel: 512.480.9899 (English) * 512.794.2922 (Espa=F1ol)
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 20:45:35 +0000
From: Larry Carroll <larrydla @JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: Salida
"Salida" has several related meanings, such as the start of a race or
train trip.
This likely is because both begin with an "exit" (the word's usual
translation) from
a starting block or train station. In tango it means the beginning of a
dance
figure. An example is the first three steps of the 8-count basic that
some teachers
use.
"Resolucion" can mean a solution or decision or summing up. Or in tango
the end of a
figure. An example is the three-step "resolucion natural" (Tango Close).
Between the beginning & middle you can put many patterns. These include:
nothing (a
perfectly valid choice), the two steps of the cruzada, ochos -- indeed
all sorts of
simple or complex figures.
Describing dance figures this way does two things. First it divides the
figure into
"chunks" (a cognitive psychology term), making the figure easier to
understand &
remember. Second, it gives meaning to the chunks. They have a function;
their choice
is not arbitrary. And not only does the function have an abstract meaning
(beginning, middle, end). The functions have a relation to the music,
which usually
has phrases that suggest a beginning, the development of a theme, and a
resolution of
the theme.
Thinking of figures as having a structure doesn t only make them easier
to understand.
It may also lead you to ask questions. For instance, why should the
salida be those
three steps? Why couldn t you use a cadencia (stepping in place) as a
salida? Why
not just start walking in a straight line? Are there other ways to
resolve a figure:
say with a corte or a cadencia followed by a pause?
Eventually it becomes clear: anything you do as a salida (or resolucion,
or whatever)
is fine, if it fits the music, your partner s abilities, & your
surroundings. This
lets you begin to be creative -- to make tango your own.
Larry de Los Angeles
http://home.att.net/~larrydla
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