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There are 10 messages totalling 396 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Julio & Corina in L.A.
2. VS: The Intuitive Lead
3. Recent AT Convention in BsAs? (5)
4. The Intuitive Lead
5. Jorge Nel's Tango Congress in Miami Beach...afterthoughts
6. CITA
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 03:28:42 EDT
From: Cherie Magnus <MACFroggy @AOL.COM>
Subject: Julio & Corina in L.A.
Hi List!
I just returned from a class with Julio Balmaceda & Corina De La Rosa,
dancers from "Forever Tango." They are here in Los Angeles from Buenos Aires
for only another week of teaching. I would like to alert everyone on the List
who may be able to take advantage of the classes in the time remaining. They
are excellent teachers, with a lot of enthusiasm and quite a bit of English.
Their schedule is as follows:
May 4 & 11 -- Beginning Tango
8-9:30 p.m. -- Studio of Performing Arts, 8558 W. 3rd St., West Hollywood
May 5 -- Milonga class
8-9:30 p.m. -- Synthesis Dance Studiio, 4200 Lankershim Blvd., No. Hollywood
April 30 & May 7 -- Beg. & Int/Adv. Tango and Practice
7-8, 8-9, 9-10:30 -- Studio of Performing Arts
May 1 -- Master Class in Improvisation, Styling & Adornments
3-4:30 -- Studio of Performing Arts
May 8 -- Master Class in Tango Waltz
3-4:30 -- Studio of Performing Arts
For more information or to schedule private lessons, call 323 650-0509
Cherie
Los Angeles
http://www.viveladifference.com
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:11:59 +0300
From: Heini-Elina Soutamo <heini.soutamo @HES.PP.FI>
Subject: VS: The Intuitive Lead
Hi,
I most certain agree with Eric about using intuition both as a lead and =
a follow. Even more intuition will be found when the follow sometime =
tryes to lead. This opens one's eyes to accept and respect partner. It =
helped me a lot to discover some bad manners I used to have.=20
[Heini-Elina Soutamo] .... the leads to try to embody and to =
incorporate some of those
qualities of the follow in his own dance movement. In effect, the lead =
reflects back
to the follow a piece of her dancing.
In this way, the lead behaves in ways similar to the follow. His =
awareness is
drawn out of thinking about moves, steps, and his lead. He is =
encouraged to be more
aware of his partner. By incorporating a piece of his partner within =
himself, he
becomes closer and more atuned to his follow. In order to lead better, =
the leader
attunes himself _as a follower_ to his partner.
The skills required to respond to the follow in this way seem similar =
to the skills
of a good follow. [Heini-Elina Soutamo] ... She uses broad, intuitive =
awareness to respond to the motions of her lead
and to add her own interpretations.
[Heini-Elina Soutamo] This also helps the lead to understand how much =
time some embellishments need to be executed properly, etc.=20
=20
It is as though my lead is an offering to listen to what her body =
has to say. In
response, my leads can offer empathy, understanding, and compassion to =
what her body
tells me.
[Heini-Elina Soutamo] having sometimes this kind of lead, it just makes =
you feel you are in heaven. There is no grouded floor just you and your =
partner as one soul letting the music flow through you.
heini
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:19:32 -0700
From: JC Dill <tango @VO.CNCHOST.COM>
Subject: Recent AT Convention in BsAs?
At a swing dance last night, a relatively clueful fellow dancer told me
that there was recently a "big tango convention/event in BsAs and a bunch
of Americans all went down and participated". He implied that this wasn't
just the normal state of events in BsAs (lots of milongas and classes) but
something more on the order of Stanford Tango Week. According to him, it
was much more than a standard Amercian Tango Tour where an American
instructor arranges a group visit to BsAs.
I was surprised, since I never saw any announcements or any indication that
anyone on this list had attended or asked about going, nada, nothing, zilch.
Does anyone know anything about this alleged event?
jc
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:22:28 +0200
From: Colin Brace <cbrace @LIM.NL>
Subject: Re: Recent AT Convention in BsAs?
On 04/30/99 at 12:19 PM, JC Dill <tango @vo.cnchost.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know anything about this alleged event?
yes, it was at the end of March. I didn't attend. The website is:
http://www.cosmotango.com/
--
Colin Brace <cbrace @lim.nl>
Amsterdam
NL
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:33:05 -0500
From: Stephen P Brown <Stephen.P.Brown @DAL.FRB.ORG>
Subject: Re: Recent AT Convention in BsAs?
This sounds very much like Congreso Internacional de Tango Argentino
(CITA), the week long tango congress organized by Gustavo Naveira and
Fabian Salas. It was March 22-28, had more than 20 well-known
instructors and about 150 attendees. CITA was announced on Tango-L
several times and there were several very favorable postings to
Tango-L about CITA shortly after it ended. To read more about it
visit the Cosmo Tango webpage: <http://www.cosmotango.com/news.htm>
--Steve de Tejas
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:11:05 -0600
From: "Frank G. Williams" <frank @INDY.BSBE.UMN.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Intuitive Lead
Hi friends,
One of the great things about tango is the many, many levels on which we can
communicate with our partner. Eric wrote eloquently about being a sensitive
leader and I also try to be as accomodating as possible. And all I wanted to
add was this: often times, being sensitive means accepting the expectation
that you'll lead boldly even if you dance at the "fringe" of the follower's
experience. In tango as in other relationships, our preferences,
expectations, and desires are always evolving. Except for the fundamental of
good basic technique, I can think of no other single definition of "good" that
applies to every dance with every partner. Can you? ...appreciate hearing
your thoughts...
Frank in Minneapolis
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_______________________________________________________________
Frank G. Williams, Ph.D. University of Minnesota
frank @indy.bsbe.umn.edu Dept. of Neuroscience
frank @biosci.cbs.umn.edu 4-103 Owre Hall
(612) 625-6441 (office) 321 Church Street SE
(612) 624-4436 (lab) Minneapolis, MN 55455
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:28:21 +0100
From: Manuel Patino <manuelp @MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject: Re: Recent AT Convention in BsAs?
Hi JC,
I'm a little surprised that you have not heard about the C.I.T.A. in Buenos
Aires held in March. I posted notices about the upcoming event several times
and with plenty of advanced notice. Too bad you missed them. It was indeed a
"big tango convention/event in BsAs and a bunch of Americans all went down
and participated". I was there as well as many other tangueros from the US
as well as the world. I actually wrote a review of the event that you can
probably find in the archives.
In a nutshell, Gustavo Naveira and Fabian Salas staged the first
International Congress of Argentine Tango in Bs As. It was the biggest tango
event of that nature. It featured about 20 of the most accomplished and
famous dancers / teachers in the world and included big nightly milongas and
shows as well as daily classes in six separate venues. The music was live by
fabulous orchestras including "Sexteto Major", "Los Reyes del Tango",
"Cuarteto Almagro" and more that I cannot recall just now.
The event was a resounding success and came off extremely well particularly
since it was the first effort (and a huge effort at that) of this type by
Fabian And Gustavo. They plan to continue with these in a yearly schedule so
save your money for next year :-)
If you need any more details please email me and I'll be glad to answer any
specific questions.
regards,
Manuel
Original Message-----
From: JC Dill <tango @VO.CNCHOST.COM>
To: TANGO-L @MITVMA.MIT.EDU <TANGO-L @MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 8:13 PM
Subject: Recent AT Convention in BsAs?
>At a swing dance last night, a relatively clueful fellow dancer told me
>that there was recently a "big tango convention/event in BsAs and a bunch
>of Americans all went down and participated". He implied that this wasn't
>just the normal state of events in BsAs (lots of milongas and classes) but
>something more on the order of Stanford Tango Week. According to him, it
>was much more than a standard Amercian Tango Tour where an American
>instructor arranges a group visit to BsAs.
>
>I was surprised, since I never saw any announcements or any indication that
>anyone on this list had attended or asked about going, nada, nothing,
zilch.
>
>Does anyone know anything about this alleged event?
>
>jc
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:34:47 +0100
From: Manuel Patino <manuelp @MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject: Re: Recent AT Convention in BsAs?
Hi Steve,
You are mostly correct. It was as you said except that I would judge the
attendees to exceed 300. I spoke with Fabian just last night about his plans
for C.I.T.A. next year and it sounds very exciting. I will post more info as
soon as I get the details. If it will be better than the last one it will be
memorable indeed. With all due respect to the Stanford Tango weeks and all
the other Tango weeks I attended (I loved them all and wish that Stanford
was still happening), C.I.T.A. was orders of magnitude better in all
respects except perhaps the higher cost of travel to Bs As.
Regards,
Manuel
Original Message-----
From: Stephen P Brown <Stephen.P.Brown @DAL.FRB.ORG>
To: TANGO-L @MITVMA.MIT.EDU <TANGO-L @MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Recent AT Convention in BsAs?
> This sounds very much like Congreso Internacional de Tango Argentino
> (CITA), the week long tango congress organized by Gustavo Naveira and
> Fabian Salas. It was March 22-28, had more than 20 well-known
> instructors and about 150 attendees. CITA was announced on Tango-L
> several times and there were several very favorable postings to
> Tango-L about CITA shortly after it ended. To read more about it
> visit the Cosmo Tango webpage: <http://www.cosmotango.com/news.htm>
>
> --Steve de Tejas
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 23:09:04 EDT
From: Arthur Greenberg <AHGberg @AOL.COM>
Subject: Jorge Nel's Tango Congress in Miami Beach...afterthoughts
Hi Tangueros & Tangueras:
At one time in my life, I thought I couldn't get enough ice cream until I
took a job with an Ice Cream Company that allowed me to eat as much ice cream
as I could possibly "pig out on"! Since that time I have reduced my intake
of ice cream significantly. I am much more discriminating in my tastes and
I also discovered that there are certainly some ice creams that taste better
than others! It is of course quite dependent on one's taste. It is
analogous to Argentine Tango!
Take this fascinating commodity, the artform called Argentine Tango! When
one is offered the choice of 12 different "classes" per day plus a one hour
"sitting discussion/lecture" at the end of each day (before
dinner)......followed by a Milonga with live music on a great wooden dance
floor that held 50 to 80 couples and left much room for everyone to
maneuver.......I took my mission seriously....that was to meet and dance with
as many newly acquainted ladies that were in attendance. Although I could
only remember the names of only 20 or 25 out of the 30 new ladies I met by
the end of the congress, I considered my mission accomplished. Try as I
would, however, I could not remember all the new variations that were
presented in all of the classes that I attended either. I understand that
there is a Taped Video Cassette of each item presented to refresh one's
memory!. Since I cannot obtain the names and addresses of all the people I
met that I would love to drop a line to and offer thanks for all the good
tangos I will offer that ,"Thank you!",now!
By the end of the week I must confess that I was experiencing the same
syndrome that had affected me when I got an overdose of ice cream at Howard
Johnson's.
"Burnt out " is not an expression that I admit to. My thirst for Tango, I
must admit, was overwhelmingly quenched. Nevertheless, I will be one of the
first on line to enroll for Jorge's next year's Tango Congress in Miami
Beach, Florida.
The newly decorated Radisson Hotel on the beach was a superb location. The
air conditioning worked to keep everyone comfortable. The hotel's pool was
simply great and the beach as well as the pool was amply supplied with bikini
clad bodies that kept one from seriously dozing off.
Jorge & Marta were personally involved in every step of the organization and
it showed. From my vantage point almost everything went smoothly and
according to their careful planning. The staff of marvelous Tango Masters
engaged to teach, enthusiastically gave their all to assure that the students
in attendance got their money's worth. When there was a problem and there
were few, the problem was handled with coolness and finesse. The hotel rooms
came at a bargain rate. The Miami Beach, Florida weather was superb. I
dined in some great local restaurants. I met some beautiful new people who
had the same passion for Tango that I had.
Now if I could only dance like Armando Orzuza or Osvaldo Zotto. My return
again to next year's congress is motivated on that hope and dream that I can
reasonably capture that "Felino" movement of Zotto's or evidence that tender
yet powerful movement displayed by Armando in his heavenly dancing with
Daniela. Wow! .....in my dreams!!! :-)
I can't wait for next year's Miami Beach Tango congress to arrive. I
will try to be ready for all that great "immersion in Argentine Tango". I
promise that I will be better next year and the next year. So please keep
me informed, Jorge of the details of your next Congress in Miami Beach,
Florida! I hope to see all you marvelous tango dancers who attended this
year at next year's Congress.
What flavor would you like? I'll take a double dip of that scrumptious
walnut mocha ice cream ! Don't let it melt....I'll be right back! After
this Tango!
Sincerely,
Arturo
AHGberg @aol.com
West Palm Beach, Florida, USA
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 15:16:31 +1000
From: Gavin Dixon <gavind @MED.USYD.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: CITA
Hi All,
We were over in BsAs while the CITA conference was on and all I heard were
good reports. I would have joined, but for my limited budget (one night at
the Alvear Palace Hotel cleaned me out of $US 650, approx. the same cost as
the whole week at CITA, but I figured that the night of my engagement will
only happen once in a lifetime, whereas I believe CITA will turn into an
annual event!). As it turned out, I was proposing to Clair in front of the
Obelisk just as the last CITA milonga was winding up at Club Espan~ol
(which was around 6am on the morning of March 29th), and bumped into a
couple of SF tangueras walking back up Corrientes. We kept a website going
while we were over there - if anyone on the list is heading to BsAs in the
near future, check
www.glebe.net.au/batrip
for a feel of the city from the point of view of a mad Australian dancer.
Gavin
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