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There are 9 messages totalling 308 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. ATTENTION: TANGO-L moderatos, unable to unsubscribe
2. Solo Tango TV Guide
3. Milongas en Barcelona?
4. Archive on sore feet and leaning post
5. Sore feet and calluses
6. Yet another foot problem
7. Leaning Post (2)
8. calluse tools
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:31:10 +0300
From: "Jari Aalto+mail.emacs" <jari.aalto @POBOXES.COM>
Subject: ATTENTION: TANGO-L moderatos, unable to unsubscribe
Sorry about the message, but I have tried to unsubscribe for two weeks
from this list. In short:
The list software uses peculiar Return-Path header, that is generated
my MTA, and which I have no control over. Other lists that I've
subscribed to (30-40) use standard From header or allow subscription
commands in format:
unsubscribe [LIST] [ADDRESS]
if the above command is not available at least The From header
can be manually generated by user (at least by Emacs, which
gives total control over email)
So my request is two folded:
1) Please unsubscribe any account named "jaalto" or "jari.aalto"
from this list, because I'm shifting servers.
2) Please either a) change to better list software, that allows
remote subscriptions commands (smartlist, ezlm, Majordomo ..)
b) Add feature that obeys above command syntax
jari
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:29:44 +0200
From: Heiko Duin <Heiko.Duin @PRODUTEC.DE>
Subject: Solo Tango TV Guide
Hi everyone!
I managed to receive the Argentine TV Programme "Solo Tango" through the
satellite HOTBIRD 2.
Now I'm wondering whether there might be an online TV guide to better
plan when to watch this channel.
I tried already the URL www.pumatv.com/solotango.html, but I didn't
found what I was looking for.
If anyone knows about, please tell me!
Best wishes
Heiko
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Germany
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e-mail: heiko.duin @produtec.de
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:43:01 EDT
From: Fernando Filippelli <ferfilip @E-MAIL.COM>
Subject: Milongas en Barcelona?
I will be in Barcelona the second week in May....
Does anybody know which milongas are being held over there?...Which nights?
Voy a estar en Barcelona la segunda semana de Mayo......
Alguien me podria dar una ayuda para encontrar milongas en esa zona?
Thanks/Gracias.
Adeu.
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:55:44 +0200
From: Garrit Fleischmann <fleischm @STUD.UNI-FRANKFURT.DE>
Subject: Archive on sore feet and leaning post
Hi List,
if you are interested in reviewing the very interesting
discussion which started with sore feet and evolved into
a general discussion about weight, axis and leading, you
can now find the thread in my Tango-L Archive
(http://www.cyber-tango.com/e/art_e.html):
http://www.cyber-tango.com/art/feet2.html
In spring '98 there was already a discussion about sore feet,
perhaps you can find some interesting hints in them:
http://www.cyber-tango.com/art/feet.html
Enjoy the Tango,
Garrit
________________________________________________________
Garrit Fleischmann
email: fleischm @uni-frankfurt.de
Witze: http://www.uni-frankfurt.de/~garrit/jokes.html
Tango: http://www.cyber-tango.com/
________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:32:29 +0200
From: Helaine Treitman <treitman @GIOTTO.ORG>
Subject: Sore feet and calluses
To Sean and the list,
To answer your question, by "put my heels down" I mean distribute my weight
over both the balls of my feel AND my heels as much as I can. Miguel Angel
Zotto insisted on this for all the followers in the first workshop I did
with him in 1996. I had asked Natalie Games, who was assisting, exactly
when should I do this, and she answered "siempre, siempre, siempre!" You
can use your heels to support some of your weight and still keep your
weight forward. This, plus gel or foam shoe inserts, completely relieved
the soreness on the balls of my feet. I never had it again. I hope this
helps your partner, Sean.
Last week Greg asked about calluses, and when I read JC's post about
trimming them with nail scissors, I winced. I'd never try that! I also
develop them on the ball of my foot and the inner edge of my big toe, but I
use a wide, gentle, spatula-shaped "file", made for this purpose, in the
bath or after every shower. It lets you take the calluses down to the
amount of protective padding you want to keep, and takes about 30 seconds
per foot to maintain after your first "pedicure".
Helaine
On Sunday, April 25, 1999 12:40 AM, sean moynihan
[SMTP:sean3 @compuserve.com] wrote:
> Hi Helaine,
>
> Have been reading this thread with interest a my partner has a foot
> problem. We have been trying to find a suitable shoe type (heel height)
to
> aleviate the discomfort while aiding the dance position.
>
> Anyway you said:
> <<I used to suffer from
> soreness on the balls of my feet until I learned to put my heels down.>>
>
> Could you please elaborate on what you mean by "put my heels down". Does
> that mean you try to keep them as close as possible to the floor?
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
>
> I would post this to the list but my mail program will not submit in an
> allowable form.
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 01:42:07 +0200
From: Helaine Treitman <treitman @GIOTTO.ORG>
Subject: Yet another foot problem
Hello friends,
Now I want to ask for help with a foot problem: Bunions! I've got it
partially solved, but I still need advice.
I started developing them about a year ago. The more often and the longer
I danced, the worse they got! During my 15 days in Buenos Aires, some
nights (or mornings) I couldn't fall asleep till I massaged my feet with
arnica cream, an herbal anti-inflammatory. My bunions and adjoining
metatarsals began to hurt not only when I danced in high heels, but even
when I walked in everyday shoes. Then once while dancing, I caught sight
of my feet in a mirror and discovered that I'm involuntarily folding one
foot in when I step, surely to shift my weight toward the outside of my
foot and avoid stepping on the painful joint - this does not make for
pretty footwork.
So I did a lot of research on the Web and finally zeroed in on several
companies that make custom orthotics - thin molded shoe inserts that change
the way you distribute your weight over your feet. At the same time I
consulted two podiatrists, who seemed to just be acting as expensive
middlemen between the patient and the orthotics producer. So I chose the
orthotics company who works with a lot of swing dancers and who answered my
questions to my satisfaction. I got their foot-casting boxes in the mail
and sent them back my casts and $250. Within a week I had my custom,
semi-rigid orthotics, which fit nicely in all my shoes and even under my
hose (to keep them from slipping forward when I wear high-heels). They are
washable, remain odorless, and have a 15 year guarantee. I wear them all
the time and they have really relieved my daily foot pain. In fact, the
manufacturer said that over time they will help my feet heal and change,
allowing the deposits on my big-toe joint to slowly be reabsorbed into my
bloodstream. Now, however, even though I switched from 3" to 2" heels and
always wear the orthotics, after many hours of dancing my bunions get
painfully and visibly inflamed again. I really miss dancing in 3" heels,
too, but the inflammation starts sooner when I do. At least the pain is
gone the next morning and stays away till I dance long hours again.
Does anyone have experience with this problem?
Thanks!
Helaine
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:35:30 -0800
From: Kate Withey <withey @SFO.COM>
Subject: Re: Leaning Post
Ted Crowley <ted @DANCER.NET> said:
> ...
> 2. In salon any "weight" is more likely downward, but
> only the following situations are actually painful:
> ...
One contribution: weight does NOT have to be downward. Daniel Trenner
does an exercise in which both partners focus on the weight you give
your partner being UPWARD. (We ended up calling this "giving
upness"....) This doesn't sound possible, & is hard to describe in
words, but try it. It's part of standing straight yourself -- where
"straight" doesn't necessarily mean separate from your partner, but
feeling your own lightness & height & upness (you know, there's that
string attached to the top/back of your head that your whole spine
hangs from, perfectly aligned) -- then thinking of sharing that
lightness with your partner. It really feels nice. Again, this
applies to both partners, even if the man is much taller than the
woman (or vice versa, I suppose!) -- he should still be standing tall
& proud; neither should be hunched down to meet the other. (So do I
actually dance that way all the time?...well, no, but if I think of
it, I try to....)
-Kate :)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:37:13 -0400
From: "Walter M. Kane" <oldzeid @FRONTIERNET.NET>
Subject: Re: Leaning Post
From: Kate Withey Tuesday, April 27, 1999 5:35 PM
> ... weight does NOT have to be downward. Daniel Trenner
> does an exercise in which both partners focus on the weight you give
> your partner being UPWARD.
Forgive me Kate, but I have to ask this:
Can you fly? ;-)
Tangringo
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:06:51 -0500
From: Karen Whitesell <kglass @IPA.NET>
Subject: calluse tools
I have to contribute this: My father uses the DREMEl tool to grind down
Mom's calluses on her feet. She's 85 and has never danced in her life.
Does dancing make our feet grow old faster? I think I'll take my
chances, for tango sure keeps the rest of my body feeling young.
Karen
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