Re: [TANGO-L] Question on Alternative Music

[Daniel Lapadula <clubstyletango @YAHOO.COM>]

Richard ,in the last sentence you asked and at the same time, answer your question.
Regards.
Daniel
Richard deSousa <Mallpasso  @AOL.COM> wrote:
I went to CellSpace, a popular San Francisco alternative tango venue, last
night and many of the same tango dancers who frequent the "normal" tango venues
were there. It occured to me and I finally realized why some of them never
seem to dance on the beat of the music because they danced to alternative music
off the beat and traditional tango music off the beat too! So is it because
they're not skilled dancers that they can't dance to the beat even when it's
very clear, in the case of traditional tango music, or they just don't care?

El Bandito de Tango



In a message dated 7/20/2005 14:26:04 Pacific Daylight Time,
ramiro9  @YAHOO.COM writes:
-----disclaimer-----

I am mostly a traditionalist when it comes to the music, and
Rarely play 'Nuevo' music. Even then, I often play 'Nuevo' style
from the 40s and 50s. I like to dance Nuevo, Open embrace, and
close embrace.

----end disclaimer----

I believe one of the elements in Nuevo music that is conducive
to the longer stride is the wandering beat.

Music in strict tempo "chains" you to the beat. Whether it's
blatant and obvious, like D'Arienzo and Biagi, or more subtly,
like DiSarli, or even Demar.

It is Very Very clear when you are On the beat, and Off the
beat.

With Nuevo music, and a wandering beat, it is not so clear. You
can miss a beat here, a beat there. You can take 2-beat step, a
1.5 beat step, a 2.2 beat step. You're not tied to the
1-1-1-2-1-2-2. Not being tied to that, other forces come into
play to determine the length of your step.

Perhaps one of these forces is your natural rhythm, your natural
harmonic as a function of the length of your legs, torso, your
mass, and your partner's.

In any case, it is easier to find "your own pace" when the music
does not adhere to a strict tempo, and that appears to be a
longer step.

ramiro


--- Trini or Sean - PATangoS
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to figure out what is it about alternative
> music (such as the tango renditions of Beatles tunes,
> just as one example) that encourages the longer,
> flowing movements of Nuevo. The melody? More marcato
> in 2? Some other term I am clueless on?
>
> What I am thinking is that the music of DArienzo, for
> example, really encourages the QQS vocabulary with the
> smaller steps used by central B.A. dancers. If tango
> styles developed along musical lines (as well, as
> space issues) what would then be the musical change
> for Nuevo, as being developed on the West Coast. Any
> ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Trini de Pittsburgh
>
>
>
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