Russell, There's also a bunch of info on the Tango-L archives. Search for "non-tango" or "alternative tango" or permutations of that at: http://pythia.uoregon.edu/~llynch/Tango-L/2001/ http://pythia.uoregon.edu/~llynch/Tango-L/2003/index.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes