Tango-L mailing list archive: Digest 23 Dec 1999 to 24 Dec 1999

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Digest from 23 Dec 1999 to 24 Dec 1999

Reply-To: Discussion of Any Aspect of the Argentine Tango <TANGO-L @MITVMA.MIT.EDU> To: Recipients of TANGO-L digests <TANGO-L @MITVMA.MIT.EDU> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 03:00:04 -0500 Sender: Discussion of Any Aspect of the Argentine Tango <TANGO-L @MITVMA.MIT.EDU> From: Automatic digest processor <LISTSERV @MITVMA.MIT.EDU> Subject: TANGO-L Digest - 23 Dec 1999 to 24 Dec 1999 (#1999-100)

There are 7 messages totalling 254 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. not tango music? 2. <nessun oggetto> 3. Ski and Tango? (2) 4. Dancing Tango to Other Music 5. Tango to non-tango music 6. Dancing Tango to non-tango music

Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 00:12:28 -0800 From: William Alsup <walsup @EUROPA.COM> Subject: Re: not tango music? I respect the purists amongst us (especially at milongas), and I believe there's enough richness in Argentine tango music to support a lifetime of repeated listening and ever-deepening familiarization. But I also think it's fun (and beneficial) to practice tango to all sorts of music. One of my most productive recent practice sessions was accompanied almost entirely by rock music (from a practice partner's son's music collection). On the other hand, I love dancing vals cruzada to the Scherzo movements of Brahms's Serenades. And now, I have the quest of finding a Stravinsky piece (besides the 'Tango' movement from "L'Histoire du soldat") that works well for tango. I agree with Mitchell Levitan when he states that "enjoyment is the point." Whatever one can do to keep tango fun and fresh (without intruding on others' enjoyment) is essential. Bill Alsup, Portland, OR http://www.europa.com/~walsup/tango/ ICQ 209242

Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:24:09 +0100 From: Alberto LANDI <alberto.landi @ERAITALIA.COM> Subject: <nessun oggetto> Anybody knows milongas & pratcticas in Barcelona? I will be there in january 13-15. Alberto

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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:34:00 -0500 From: Michael Ditkoff <Michael.B.Ditkoff @USDOJ.GOV> Subject: Re: Ski and Tango?

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=_WT21445.38623496.0a0/wt1 Manuel wrote an interesting message of combining a ski trip and tango. Think of the possibilities. He can go downhill on parallel or cross skis. If he's daring, he can try the open box (called "change of front" by some). If he jumps over bumps on the run (as in mogul skiing in the Olympics) he can throw in a boleo or gancho himself. Yes, tango and skiing. A wonderful combination!! Good luck, Manuel. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Ski and Tango? Hi everybody, It's that time of the year again and I'm thinking of a ski trip to the Rockies for next year. I would love to have it all and combine some tango dancing with my ski trip Manuel

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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:53:49 -0000 From: white95r <white95r @HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: Ski and Tango? Michael, Before anyone really thinks I intend to do some sort of ski tango dance and I get bashed by the purists please know that I have no intentions or ideas to do anything like that. Although your post is amusing, the premise is totally ridiculous and I never said I intended to do anything of the sort. While the thread of dancing tango to different music is going on, I don't want anyone to think that your response is anything more that a joke, lest people get confused and actually begin discussing such an idiotic subject.

Original Message ----- From: Michael Ditkoff <Michael.B.Ditkoff @USDOJ.GOV>

---- > Manuel wrote an interesting message of combining a ski trip and tango. > Think of the possibilities. He can go downhill on parallel or cross > skis. If he's daring, he can try the open box (called "change of > front" by some). If he jumps over bumps on the run (as in mogul skiing > in the Olympics) he can throw in a boleo or gancho himself. > > Yes, tango and skiing. A wonderful combination!! Good luck, Manuel.

Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 21:06:47 +0100 From: Natarajan Balasundara <rajan @EMC.COM> Subject: Re: Dancing Tango to Other Music

Original Message----- From: Naomi Bennett <Naomiben @swbell.net>

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 6:52 AM >When I was in B.A. last October, I saw a very good young dancer mix it up >with tango moves and rap together. [stuff deleted] This bleeding edge blending of sounds, sounds like it is more for the avant-garde than for a debutante... rajan. > > >Naomi Bennett >Austin, TX > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >REMINDER: Announcements of Tango events or products should be sent to >Tango-A and not to TANGO-L. To subscribe to Tango-A, send the >command "subscribe Tango-A Firstname Lastname" to LISTSERV @MITVMA.MIT.EDU. >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >

Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 15:22:32 +0900 From: Sang Hyeon Chang <chang @BARAM.PHYS.TOHOKU.AC.JP> Subject: Tango to non-tango music It looks like this subject become the last controversy of 19xx in Tango-L. I think there is some kind of misunderstanding. I agree of most of above postings. Yes, I think they are both right, in the sense "One cannot dance tango to non-tango music." "One can dance tango steps to any music and can have fun." One thing I don't understand is that many of people identify "step" to the "dance". Dance, which is not choreographed, cannot be separated from its music. Tango is not just a sequence of steps. (No dance is, neither.) What people talked about so far is, dancing tango steps to non-tango music. I feel that too, whenever I listen some pieces of Bach (e.g. Aria of Goldberg Var.). I think there is nothing wrong with that. And there is no reason of calling each other "purist" or "spoiler". Mery X-mas and Happy 2000. Sang p.s. Dance to "story of soldier" by Stravinsky. Hmm.. I should try it at home by myself.. I haven't listened that CD for a years. p.s.2 I think one of the nice thing in Tango is how you interpret the music with your body. Appling this idea to other kinds of musics may help you enjoy other musics more.

Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:28:08 -0800 From: Phil Seyer <Phil_Seyer @ILOVEMUSIC.COM> Subject: Re: Dancing Tango to non-tango music I saw Ken Delmar dancing to smooth jazz music in a San Francsico restaurant played by a trio-- acoustical string bass, flute and saxophone, I think. He was doing it as part of a special promotion. It was quite sexy, interesting, and enjoyable to watch. I video taped the "performance." I'm thinking of putting a video clip on the www.SanFranciscoTango.com website. What do you think? How might the AT respond? It might be interesting especially if accompanied by some quotes from this discussion -- yes, of course, I will get permission before quoting any of you! MagicSeyer www.ilovemusic.com www.MagicSeyer.com www.SanFranciscoTango.com

Original Message ----- From: Hannes Rieger <hrieger @gmx.de> To: <TANGO-L @MITVMA.MIT.EDU> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 6:19 AM Subject: Re: Dancing Tango to not tango music > As long as you feel good dancing tango on other music and as long > as you are not an obstacle for people who dance the 'right' dance > to the music I see no problem. We like to dance vals cruzado to > viennese waltz, it's very pleasant (and sensational :-), but we > pay attention, not to be in the way of the other dancers. Another > amusing thing is to dance milonga to some kind of samba music. > > On the other hand it causes aversion to me to dance Argentine tango > on standard tangos (or European tangos, no matter how you call it)... > > Considerate ganchos > Hannes (from Germany) >

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