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Subject: TANGO-L Digest - 11 Dec 1999 to 12 Dec 1999 (#1999-88)
There are 6 messages totalling 172 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. tradition and Copes
2. Copes (2)
3. The lady leaning "heavy" on the man
4. New Italy and tango worldwide site
5. CITA accomodation(Bristol Hotel)
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:18:21 -0600
From: tangostud <tangostud @MOST-WANTED.COM>
Subject: Re: tradition and Copes
Speaking of Copes and "tradition", isn't a fact that most of his famous
choreographies have not changed in 40+ years?!
Not a single step - everything is the same no matter what show or movie he
is in, Juan Carlos never changes anything!!!
Respectfully,
A.T.
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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:56:04 +0100
From: Jean-Pierre Jacquet <jpjfilms @CYBERCABLE.FR>
Subject: Copes
"Tangostud" (a name that doesn't roll off the tongue easily) wrote some
slightly derogatory comments about J.C.Copes'repetitious choreographies.
I recently saw TA on Broadway (somewhat disappointing, perhaps due to
the hype), and I did find the performance of Copes somewhat stiff and at
times hesitant; so if he has indeed been doing the same thing for 40
years, it didn't show... and Maria Nieves seemed to be equally baffled
(and/or saddled with a visibly sore dorsal area) by her legendary
partner, as she sleepwalked her way through an uninspired routine.
However I won't pretend to be equipped to compare his choreography of
today with that of yesteryears as I was not around 40 years ago as do I
think anyone who calls himself Tangostud was either.
Jean-Pierre Jacquet and Colette
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:08:03 -0800
From: JC Dill <tango @VO.CNCHOST.COM>
Subject: Re: The lady leaning "heavy" on the man
On 11:30 AM 12/3/99 , Natarajan Balasundara wrote:
>And four weeks ago, I was dancing with a different partener and it was
>apparent
>that she was from out of town because of the rigidness as well as the
>amount
>of weight that she put on me as she was leaning on me. So, the first
>dance we
>danced with much caution and very close embrace(since increasing the
>distance
>would have meant more weight on me). Since the first dance went ok, I
>decided
>to increase the distance a little bit more, open up and do some figures
>in the second
>dance. All of a sudden, I felt as if something fell on me and soon I
>realized that she
>was fully leaning on me and was on her toes with feet crossed! There
>was no way
>she was going to be able to stand up on her own. It was as if a full
>human sized
>oscar statue ramrod straight had fallen on my shoulders.
It takes two to tango. :-) To quote Ann Landers, "people can't walk all
over you like a doormat if you don't lay down first". To avoid the
situation where a follower leans on you to far, don't be something that can
be leaned on! If you don't present a frame that is suitable for the
follower to lean on (to this degree), you won't get leaned on in an
uncomfortable way.
Often this is solved by presenting a more forward frame on your own,
meeting your partner in the middle:
/\
rather than remaining very upright and becoming a leaning post:
|\
HTH
jc
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 17:14:39 -0500
From: Enrico Massetti <e_mass @EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Subject: New Italy and tango worldwide site
Hello list,
for all those that have been relying for some time on TangoItalia as a
source of information on where to take your dancing shoes while traveling
in Italy: TangoItalia is NOT retiring and will continue to be updated and
available at:
http://www.aaanetserv.com/tango/tangoitalia.html
Your guarantee on how the site will be updated: "I need it myself when
I visit my home country, that's why I created it in the first place...".
Ciao,
Enrico
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alberto Marani <lubas @IOL.IT>
> To: <TANGO-L @MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 9:54 AM
> Subject: EU-W: New Italy and tango worldwide site
>
>
> > Hello List, we inform about new important sites about tango
> >
> > Tango in Italia http://digilnder.iol.it/medialuna/linkita.htm
> > List of all clubs, associations, schools, milongas and tango singers and
> > musicians in Italy.
> >
> > Alberto Marani (Medialuna - Italy)
> > http://digilnder.iol.it/medialuna/
> > ++39-0547-334 676 (h 15 - 22)
>
>
>
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 18:38:52 -0500
From: Silivia Borelli <silvia.borelli @OPERAMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Copes
I first saw Copes on TV about 10 years ago, and since then several times in
different shows in Buenos Aires, and most recently in the Saura's movie
"Tango".
It seems to me that indeed he repeats his "La Cumparsita" choreography
step-for-step, no matter who his partner is.
At the same time, he always seems very elegant and nearly-perfect in his
execution of the steps.
Sincerely,
Silvia Borelli.
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:34:04 +1300
From: Neville Waisbrod <waisbrod @ACTRIX.GEN.NZ>
Subject: CITA accomodation(Bristol Hotel)
Could someone please let me know if the Bristol Hotel is near the Cita venue
in BA. Also if you have stayed there please let me know what you thought of it.
Thanks
Neville
End of TANGO-L Digest - 11 Dec 1999 to 12 Dec 1999 (#1999-88)
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